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ac1d1ty

ac1d1ty

ac1d1ty

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Is it the great thing it once was?


Personally having only just started, I can't speak really, except to voice my opinion.


In my opinion: Its not.

I've found my time here very underwelming.


1: Half the Goddamn tutors etc are foreign. I'm sorry but in a busy lecture hall, the last thing you want is someone who barely speaks English to try and hold the attention of the hall.

2: The work. It's really not the challenging (yes I know it gets harder), and I really can't see the relevance.

3: The people. Whilst i've got no real problem myself, having gotten in with a good bunch of people, there are so many foreign people here. Sorry if this sounds racist :rolleyes: , but its disconcerting to see so many Chinese, African people etc, whose grasp on the language and involvement in the university is minimal.


Pointless rant I know, but I just can't see what is so great about university education. It has the feel of a system that used to be special, but is now about batch orders.


For the record i'm going to a decent university, not some awful place :p


What do you guys think?
 
Daegan said:
I guess you're fine with all the Brits whose grasp of the language and involvement in the university is minimal then, you silly racist.
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I was generalising.


No I don't give a toss what nationality someone is, but when it impinges on my experience at university then yes, I feel I have a legitimate right to moan. :p

And yes, people barely speaking the language/ not getting involved in anything to do with the uni, does bug me, as do lecturers who cannot communicate effectively, no matter how many phd's they have.
 
Okay, first off, I wish to apologise for my remarks made. They were not made out of any hate for "foreign" people, and indeed I would say the issue extends further than such issues, and being as subtle as a sledgehammer I failed to mention them.


Sorry if I caused any offense at my remarks. Its just that i'm sorely disappointed in the whole uni experience. Socially its fantastic, having a great time, but academically I know deep down its just not for me. I can do the work, hell I know i'm going to end up with a degree. Its a worthwhile degree at that, but I just can't find any interest in it.


It sucks to have no goal or purpose in life.
 
Jonny69 said:
I really think your university experience depends on the university and the course. My university experience was very different from my girlfriend's but yet our universitis were less than a mile apart. She was at RHUL and was there for the buildings, the culture and the classicists, and most of them were like that there. I was up the road at Brunel and there for the quality of education, which I got. Go to Oxbridge and you'll be get an Oxbridge experience.

I did my 1st degree just before the grant was abolished, the year before tuition fees, so I've seen quite a transition in the way universities look and operate. Before fees most universities looked exactly as they did in the 60's. They were dated, lacking money and lacking facilities. Students were poor and lived off beans on toast. Now they are very commercialised and students are rolling in money. You only have to look at University of Surrey, it has two Starbucks with permanently long queues and a Thai restaurant on campus. No way it would have been like that 10 years ago.


Oi, UniS rocks. Well it does from up here in CES anyway :cool:
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I agree entirely. Obviously I don't wish to live like a homeless person, but its also odd seeing the sheer amount of money that floats around.

I come from a well off enough background so it dosent faze me that much, but i've spent some time in some less well off areas and to be quite honest, I find it odd that a student who dosent work can afford to eat whatever they want, go drinking when the want, have great clothes etc etc.

Not complaining :D:D:D but I find it odd indeed.
 
I was only drawing a correlation to the fact that lots of people with less than perfect English do not even make the attempt to try and "fit in" in terms of being involved in seminars etc.

It's NOTHING to do with their colour or their creed etc, and the argument is true for "white" people as well, but more pronounced in the form of the huddle of the international students.
 
Well I've learnt one thing.......

Watch how you phrase your arguments when posting on OCUK. :p


I have no problems as stated with people of different persuasions and ethnicities, am grateful for the fact they are paying enormous fee's to help keep universities ticking over and most certainly would not dispute that they can contribute a lot.


What I was complaining about is the fact that there IS a sizeable chunk of people who do not get involved when the onus is on them. When we do a group presentation in a seminar, it's a time for us ALL to contribute knowledge to each other so we can understand the subject better. However when this just leads to 80% of the class actually contributing something (80% meaning any race etc, not just "British" :rolleyes:) it gets frustrating.

Same for a lecturer. Sure I have no problem trying to decipher what they are saying, and indeed it can eventually be regarded as a skill to understand dialects, and I have no problem with this.

However when I have a person (again dosent matter what colour or race etc) who for a 2hr lecture is basically unintelligible then again, I feel like I have a right to complain. Sure they have got PhD's up to their eyebrows, but I'm paying £3k+ in tuition fee's so that I can get knowledge imparted to me, not having to go and just read up on the lecture slides.
 
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