unusual RAM problems

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hello

long winded post but here goes. i currently use this motherboard https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...ocket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-321-ms.html

my son uses this board https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...ocket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-322-ms.html

we have both been using 8gb ddr4 3200 ram https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...nel-kit-black-red-tdprd48g3200-my-073-tg.html

for almost a year and countless bios updates on both boards we have never managed to get the ram to run above the default 2133 speeds.

on tuesday my son purchased this ram https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...al-channel-kit-rgb-white-tf2d4-my-08n-tg.html

straight out the box it defaulted to 3200 and is running perfectly.

however after 6 hours constantly trying the 4 x 4gb sticks of the 3200 ram will not post on 3 seperate boards ( 2 mentioned and a gigabyte ga-ab350m at anything above 2133 ) above 2133 default settings.

is anyone able to offer me any suggestions as to what i should try next to at least get close to what the ram should be running at please.

tried the usual mem checks etc and no problems with the ram whatsoever and all 4 work fine on a mates intel board.

its about 11 months since they were purchased so doubt i will be able to get a refund and TBH i cant be bothered with the hassle of returning items for them to check them and say no problem when their clearly is somewhere

any help isgreatly appreciated

TIA
 
Problem is here that is most likely is not the RAM. When you select the XMP profile it's not just changing the default settings for the RAM, it's also overclocking the rest of your system, and the rest of your system may not work at those settings. Have you tried manually setting the RAM? I am sure you must be able to achieve some level of overclocking albeit you just can't achieve the full XMP settings. What settings have you tried? You can also just reduce the timings on the RAM instead of the frequency to achieve almost the same results, have you tried that?
 
Problem is here that is most likely is not the RAM. When you select the XMP profile it's not just changing the default settings for the RAM, it's also overclocking the rest of your system, and the rest of your system may not work at those settings. Have you tried manually setting the RAM? I am sure you must be able to achieve some level of overclocking albeit you just can't achieve the full XMP settings. What settings have you tried? You can also just reduce the timings on the RAM instead of the frequency to achieve almost the same results, have you tried that?
ive tried inputting all the settings manually ( 16/16/16/16/36 ) but i still get the boot error where only some of the leds come on and the pc power recycles a few times until it reverts to default settings and allows you to boot into windows.

im not sure if their are any other settings i should input manually or not though??
 
ive tried inputting all the settings manually ( 16/16/16/16/36 ) but i still get the boot error where only some of the leds come on and the pc power recycles a few times until it reverts to default settings and allows you to boot into windows.

im not sure if their are any other settings i should input manually or not though??

Same board I had until a week ago, loved every min of it, one thing to note is when raising your RAM speed above 2133mhz, change the CPU SoC voltage / CPU NB Voltage to 1.100v this is basically the memory controller and helps a lot, also try the memory try it function, try 2933mhz first of all with the closest timings to your stock timings as possible, 2933mhz 16,16,16,36 should be in that list, also on those MSI motherboards, set memory voltage to 1.36v, just one final thing, try 2 sticks only to start with, 4 sticks are a lot harder for the CPU to handle than 2, but you must also make sure when using 2, they are in the 2nd and 4th slots from the CPU, those are to be populated first.

Just one final question from me, was your ram on the QVL, the first edition RyZens and boards were very picky about RAM and the chips used to build that ram, you can download Typhoon burner for free and scan the ram slots to find out all the details about your particular ram, you can see from that screeshot that im running G.skill Trident Z RGB 3200mhz Hynix chip based, like this:

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