Upcoming M3 chips

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Coming from a highly reliable source. Looks like an extra 2 cpu and gpu cores in the M3 vs M2, which in turn has 2 extra cpu and gpu cores over the M1. IPC wise not much is different, seems like all the potential gains will be from the 3nm node and extra cores.

Seems like apple has essentially hit the limit with its IPC, and now gains can only really be seen due to the standard improvements in nodes or just adding more cores
 
Says who?I've kept my laptops for over 5 years in the last 20 plus years.

I also keep my desktop main motherboard and psu for like 6 plus years and only update the ram and gpu when needed and I'm a hardcore techie
you're an exception then! Im quite the opposite, I buy things thinking im going keep for a longer time than I actually do, because sometimes a good deal just happens to come by with noticeable improvements.

Ive seen the same happen here as well where people tend to upgrade earlier than expected for a variety of reasons
 
This will be another excuse for YouTubers then to label the M1 air as only good enough for taking notes on in class. When a few years ago they were marvelling at being able to edit 8k video. Progress can be a funny thing.

Interesting to see where this is going to go. Sooner or later they will run into a dead end, as both Intel and AMD have at various points in their history.
Very true, what they were once so chuffed about will of a sudden become not feasible for even the smallest tasks. The Apple chips have already had their big performance leap going from Intel to M1, any increases now are just a small iterative increases in performances and thats all its going to be for the foreseeable future as well.

Still find it funny how they compare their chips to the old 8/9th gen intel chips from several years ago now.. Funny because the equivalent current gen Intel chips actually outperform the M chips in quite a few workloads
 
That would be very interesting.

they did a similar thing with the first M1 chips... used the old designs on the macbook and macbook air. And then the 2nd gen version is where the new designs came out.

They've done a similar thing with the mac pro, using the same old design as before and just the m2 ultra chip, but the m3 mac pro could very likely have a brand new design and the extreme processor
 
I've not kept up to date, would you mind showing a few examples? Their marketing is making me think that these are top of the line so any comparison for me to see would be great (benchmark/real life) thanks.

Depends which chips you are comparing to in which category. If you want to just look at all out maximum performance then you need to compare the M2 Ultra with the other top end desktop ones from AMD and Intel

M2 Ultra (24 cores) vs 13900K (24 cores) vs 7950X3D (16 cores) - The PC chips outperform in most CPU related real word tests. Where the apple chips do better is in power consumption and obviously apple specific apps.

If you want a rough idea on performance then look up some Cinebench R23 scores to see the difference in levels between them.
 
what are people's opinions of the M3 Pro then? Is it worth getting or just not worth the money compared with the M2 Pro which had more performance cores or perhaps the M2 Max or M3 Max
 
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