Upgrade advice for Video Editing please

OnTheRopes

OnTheRopes

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I have recently gotten into Video editing and have the need to edit 4k video in Premier Pro.
This has slowed down to a crawl of course and I have to edit in proxy to use it at all.
I am thinking of upgrading my PC which was a self build mainly from components bought from OC some years ago.
Here is my system
Processor: Intel(TR) Core(TM) i5 CPU 760 @ 2.80 GHz
8GB RAM
Windows Seven Pr 64 bit
NVIDEA GeForce GTX 460

I am looking for some advice on an economic way to upgrade to make it handle 4k video editing comfortably.
 
OnTheRopes said:
hmmm just gathering ideas at the moment so budget not strict but would like to see options and prices, results are important first, price second.
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Well there is no real way to give your current system a good upgrade/overhaul, without changing the motherboard/CPU/RAM combo, or wasting money on a fractionally better Socket 1156 i7/Xeon CPU, and adding more RAM.

I assume you are using SSD's for your work flow in Premier? If not then you will want to be adding that to your parts list, especially if working with larger file sizes.

If you want performance first, then you should be looking at the likes of the Intel 8700(K), with the relevant motherboard, and at least 16GB of DDR4 2666MHz+ RAM. If you go for the K chip, and want to overclock it to get most value for your money, then you'll need a Z370 chipset board, if not then you can just get the standard 8700, and put that in a B360 board. Cost wise, around £500 for those three, and if you plan to overclock then you would want to specify a good quality CPU cooler, circa £40-100.

That would get you a good start, but really by the looks of things, you should probably just build a whole new PC, with PSU/Case/Graphics card etc. :)
 
Good idea for GPU budget , guessing for yourself gtx 1060 would be best bet. More you get into it with the more effects then the more benefit of having the GPU.

Guessing you playback at full Res ?

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...018-GPU-Performance-NVIDIA-Titan-V-12GB-1101/

As for CPU use , Intel i7 8700 non K and AMD Ryzen 2700 would be a good match

Non K would fare where the 1700X lies as it's all core boost is 4.3ghz to the K's 4.7ghz

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £794.05 (includes shipping: £11.10)​
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Personally would side with Ryzen - specially if you start to use other editingsoftware as well which takes into account thread counts

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £778.06 (includes shipping: £11.10)​
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Thanks both for the input.
With your list orbitalwash, do you think I will get away with my current copy of windows 7 or with so many system changes will I be forced to buy another copy?


orbitalwalsh said:
Good idea for GPU budget , guessing for yourself gtx 1060 would be best bet. More you get into it with the more effects then the more benefit of having the GPU.

Guessing you playback at full Res ?

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...018-GPU-Performance-NVIDIA-Titan-V-12GB-1101/

As for CPU use , Intel i7 8700 non K and AMD Ryzen 2700 would be a good match

Non K would fare where the 1700X lies as it's all core boost is 4.3ghz to the K's 4.7ghz

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £794.05 (includes shipping: £11.10)
​


Personally would side with Ryzen - specially if you start to use other editingsoftware as well which takes into account thread counts

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £778.06 (includes shipping: £11.10)
​
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orbitalwalsh said:
Personally would side with Ryzen - specially if you start to use other editingsoftware as well which takes into account thread counts
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Problem is Premier Pro is much, much, faster on Intel 8700 even with less cores/threads due to the improved use of hardware iGPU acceleration for Intel, and the fact Adobe suck at multi threading their apps so the clock speed helps more. Don't forget it will also use the GeForce CUDA acceleration at the same time and the built-in iGPU

As a platform Ryzen is better for future upgrade, but will be noticeably slower compared to the i7 setup, until Adobe pull their socks up. :)
 
Journey said:
Problem is Premier Pro is much, much, faster on Intel 8700 even with less cores/threads due to the improved use of hardware iGPU acceleration for Intel, and the fact Adobe suck at multi threading their apps so the clock speed helps more. Don't forget it will also use the GeForce CUDA acceleration at the same time and the built-in iGPU

As a platform Ryzen is better for future upgrade, but will be noticeably slower compared to the i7 setup, until Adobe pull their socks up. :)
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I keep hearing everyone rave on about davinci resolve- currently building ryzen system for friend hows done some video work for Morrisions - though seems unlike Prem it really hammers GPUs but does love thread counts .
Guessing having a free version wins people over from Adobe's iron grip

OnTheRopes said:
Thanks both for the input.
With your list orbitalwash, do you think I will get away with my current copy of windows 7 or with so many system changes will I be forced to buy another copy?
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ive heard others have used win 7 with both CPUs but would personally move to Win10 .
CD key for £30 and using Media creation tool form someone how has win10 installed on their system
 
orbitalwalsh said:
I keep hearing everyone rave on about davinci resolve- currently building ryzen system for friend hows done some video work for Morrisions - though seems unlike Prem it really hammers GPUs but does love thread counts .
Guessing having a free version wins people over from Adobe's iron grip
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As I use Adobe CC anyway then PP seemed a no brainer.
 
OnTheRopes said:
I don't know how much it uses and away from home atm.
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not sure how long the 4k videos your editing will be or how much effects go on but 32gb does have benefits over 16gb that has benifits over 8GB etc etc


https://tekeverything.com/adobe-ram-render-test-8gb-vs-16gb-vs-32gb/

costs increase though, dropping to 1050ti can help along with still playing games if you do so at better frames then current gtx 460 but a good shot!

Lastly, working off SSD - have the program installed on their as well as workload - move the finished article into storage drive afterwards


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £837.46 (includes shipping: £10.50)​
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though 32gb might be a little overkill for yourself but drop down to 1050ti could help keeps costs down
 
OnTheRopes said:
Thanks I think I will go with 32gb, what do you think of this build, i am thinking of buying all new and adding my existing mechanical hard drives?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...hG2u1.bmhH2u1-bmhI2u1@bmhJ2vx6bmhK2u1VbnfR2w-.
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£1300 for a 4 core 4 thread i3 isn't money well spent personally - normally can build them better spec when self building or giving a list to OCUK to custom build.

ask for 32gb 2x16gb 2400hz instead

My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x OcUK Gaming Vision VR Gaming PC - Intel 8th Generation 3.6GHz Quad Core = £1,148.96
    • Processor:Intel Core i7-8700 3.2GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail
    • Memory:Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C14 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G24
    • Graphics Card:*Build Stock* Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 Windforce OC 6144MB GDDR5 Graphics Card
    • Solid State Drive:TeamGroup 480GB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive
    • CPU Cooler:Unwanted
    • Case:phanteks Eclipse P400 Midi Tower Case - Black Window
    • WIFI:Unwanted
    • Security Software:Bullguard Anti-Virus 2017 - 1 PC 1 Year **Offer Price**
Total: £1,163.06 (includes shipping: £14.10)


as mirrored by @Journey below- sur ehe'll be able to spec a list you can pass onto OCUK to have built for you, factoring roughly £150 build cost on top of list parts :D​
 
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