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blu3shad0w

blu3shad0w

blu3shad0w

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Hi

Been a long time, over 15 years since I last built a pc from scratch

Looking for advice for an upgrade of a graphic card.

Had some bits for a pc given to me for an AMD4 based motherboard and recently got the bits to complete apart from.the graphics card.
Chip is a AMD ryzen 7 5800x3d with 128gb of ddr4 ram, wd-black m2, 850 go!d psu and a few other bits.

Looking to use it for work and gaming from 1080, 1440 and we'll all the way up to 4k and VR on a meta quest

Been looking at the different graphic card options for 4k gaming.


Got a budget of max £1100 which squeezes in the lower end Nvida 4080 cards in.Well

Is there that much difference in terms of make and spec of the card?

Wondering what should got for either in terms of AMD or Nvidia graphic cards for

Nvidia 4080
Nvidia 4070Ti
Nvidia 4070
AMD 7900xtx
AND 7900xt

Thanks in advance

Cheers Blue
 
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For 4k and that budget I'd recommend either the 4080 or 7900xtx. You'd need the extra grunt at that resolution. Does ray tracing and upscaling interest you? If so Nvidia, otherwise AMD is a bit cheaper. However, you also mentioned VR, it which case Nvidia as AMD support isn't as good.

The 4080 is a decent card but very very overpriced.
 
For £1100 I’d go for a sapphire nitro 7900XTX.

One thing I would mention is that todays graphics card are nothing like 10 years ago. Todays cards are huge, use insane amounts of power and need a hell of a lot of attending to in regards of cooling. Case selection is critical to dealing with the heat output and being able to fit them.
 
jigger said:
I think the 850 gold will be plenty for an AMD system.
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Well, there are 850w Gold and 850w Gold!

Depends on the brand, age and usage. If it is one of the better tier ones you should be fine. If it has a name you haven't heard from or not enough vowels replace.

Maybe someone can point to the Reddit Tier A - Tier D list

As mentioned, your case will need to fit it and have good airflow. You didn't mention if you received a case of not or if the budget is just for the GPU (and potentially another PSU)
 
Noughtboy said:
Well, there are 850w Gold and 850w Gold!

Depends on the brand, age and usage. If it is one of the better tier ones you should be fine. If it has a name you haven't heard from or not enough vowels replace.

Maybe someone can point to the Reddit Tier A - Tier D list

As mentioned, your case will need to fit it and have good airflow. You didn't mention if you received a case of not or if the budget is just for the GPU (and potentially another PSU)
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I’d say it’s plenty as long as not complete garbage.
 
Here is the PSU to that I have got.

MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 Power Supply Unit, UK Plug - 850W, 80 Plus Gold Certified,​


What graphic card.

Also for the different option

Nvidia 4800
Nvidia 4700ti
Nvidia 4700
Amd xfx
Amd xf

What are the best options for 4k etc.

Well if I can get away with paying less.

Is there much difference in the manufactures
 
blu3shad0w said:
Here is the PSU to that I have got.

MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 Power Supply Unit, UK Plug - 850W, 80 Plus Gold Certified,​


What graphic card.

Also for the different option

Nvidia 4800
Nvidia 4700ti
Nvidia 4700
Amd xfx
Amd xf

What are the best options for 4k etc.

Well if I can get away with paying less.

Is there much difference in the manufactures
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The best is the most powerful you can afford. But it depends on what you play? Do you always ultra graphics or are you ok turning them down? Do you use ray tracing or VR? Do you mind using upscaling?

You've got the model names wrong btw. 4080, 4070, XT, XTX.

Your PSU is fine for anything.
 
gjbf1 said:
The best is the most powerful you can afford. But it depends on what you play? Do you always ultra graphics or are you ok turning them down? Do you use ray tracing or VR? Do you mind using upscaling?

You've got the model names wrong btw. 4080, 4070, XT, XTX.

Your PSU is fine for anything.
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True the model names are

Amd 7900xt
Amd 7900xtx
Nvidia 4080
Nvidia 4070ti
Nvidia 4070

Will all of them support 4k?

What one would you go to for based on.
Price
Below £1100
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Mid
Bottom

For the card specs above?

In terms of games well it been over 15 years since getting a new system.

Would love to turn them up as much as possible and also to do VR.

Basically got a Xbox series X and would love for my pc to at least match the that graphic wise.

Is it always the case that your going to notice a massive difference between the dearest manufacturers and the cheaper ones.
 
blu3shad0w said:
True the model names are

Amd 7900xt
Amd 7900xtx
Nvidia 4080
Nvidia 4070ti
Nvidia 4070

Will all of them support 4k?

What one would you go to for based on.
Price
Below £1100
Top
Mid
Bottom

For the card specs above?

In terms of games well it been over 15 years since getting a new system.

Would love to turn them up as much as possible and also to do VR.

Basically got a Xbox series X and would love for my pc to at least match the that graphic wise.

Is it always the case that your going to notice a massive difference between the dearest manufacturers and the cheaper ones.
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A Xbox Series X graphics is about equivalent to a 2070S. All of these cards will blow it out the water.

For 4k don't buy a 12GB card. It'll run into vRAM issues soon. So ignore the 4070s.

If you want fancy bells and whistles and VR then I'd go Nvidia. 4080 I'd put at the top of your list, followed by the 7900XTX.

Beware though, the current prices of all graphics cards are inflated right now.
 
Oh as as for the various manufacturers. Not much difference, I'd advise going for the one with the best warranty and the cheaper end. The heavy factory overclocks don't make them more than a few frames faster (usually only 1-5) and the use a lot more power and generate a lot more heat as a result.
 
Thanks for the help.

Seems to be miminal difference between the Nvidia 4800, amd 7900 xt and amd 7900xtx from different sites and you tube.

One final thing most of the cards have got display port

Take that display port can do 4k.
Also is it worth getting a 4K monitor that has display port or getting a display port to hdmi converter?
 
Any idea about the difference in display port?

Not so simple now since we'll you got screen refresh rate etc and well guess to better to go dp from card to dp on monitor.
 
blu3shad0w said:
Thanks for the help.

Seems to be miminal difference between the Nvidia 4800, amd 7900 xt and amd 7900xtx from different sites and you tube.

One final thing most of the cards have got display port

Take that display port can do 4k.
Also is it worth getting a 4K monitor that has display port or getting a display port to hdmi converter?
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7900XT<4080<7900XTX in terms for raw performance. But the 4080 has better upscaling and ray tracing.

Yes DP can do 4k.

An HDMI converter will be fine for 60Hz. You might need a better one for higher assuming your monitor can support it. Probably not worth changing the monitor though.
 
blu3shad0w said:
Any idea about the difference in display port?

Not so simple now since we'll you got screen refresh rate etc and well guess to better to go dp from card to dp on monitor.
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You should find that all the cards have at least one HDMI, so if you have an HDMI monitor already then an adapter is not needed.

I think DP 1.4a has a max refresh of 120 Hz (or 240 with DSC), whereas DP 2.1 is 240 Hz.
 
Been doing looking into dp 1.4 and 2.1

Amd dp 2.1 but Nvidia got the power and got the dp 1.4.

Thinking about putting a spanner in the works and waiting for the next gen on Nvidia card, the 5000 series that should hopefully have dp 2.1


For now thinking about getting a Nvidia 3700 or 3800 which should be ok for now as a stop gap.

Think about those two cards should be on to run 4k or vr for the time being?
 
Do you mean the 3070 and 3080? The 3080 would clearly stand a better chance but both might struggle a bit.
 
Yeah the Nvidia rtx 3070 or the rtx 3080 be £100 more might be a stop gap until the ,Nvidia rtx 5000 cards are released


Shame the amd cards can not match the Nvidia cards
 
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