Upgrade Advice Needed

[Wight31]

Evening all,

Ive decided to upgrade my gaming rig so that i can play at 1440p consistently at 60+ fps, Im also upgrading because i miss the fun of building if im honest.

Heres my current spec:

I7 6700k @ 4.4GHZ
Asus Z170E Motherboard
16GB ram @ 3200mhz
GTX 1070
600 Watt PSU.

I was orignally looking at going for a i7 9700k with a 2070 super. When you factor in im buying the processor and GPU with a new mobo,PSU,RGB ram (because we all like RGB ram), cpu cooler, this is taking me a bit over my £1k budget.

So as an alterntive i was thinking of a AMD 3600x (inc cooler), 570 motherboard, 3600mhz ram, 2070,PSU. This puts me only a few pounds over budget.

I cant decide if putting in the extra money for a i7 9700k will be worth it or go for AMD?

Any advice would be welcome.

Cheers.

 

[Joxeon]

Evening all,

Ive decided to upgrade my gaming rig so that i can play at 1440p consistently at 60+ fps, Im also upgrading because i miss the fun of building if im honest.

Heres my current spec:

I7 6700k @ 4.4GHZ
Asus Z170E Motherboard
16GB ram @ 3200mhz
GTX 1070
600 Watt PSU.

I was orignally looking at going for a i7 9700k with a 2070 super. When you factor in im buying the processor and GPU with a new mobo,PSU,RGB ram (because we all like RGB ram), cpu cooler, this is taking me a bit over my £1k budget.

So as an alterntive i was thinking of a AMD 3600x (inc cooler), 570 motherboard, 3600mhz ram, 2070,PSU. This puts me only a few pounds over budget.

I cant decide if putting in the extra money for a i7 9700k will be worth it or go for AMD?

Any advice would be welcome.

Cheers.

I would just get the 3600 non x and save yourself 40 quid for like 2fps and also a msi b450 max board and save another 80+ quid as you Will find no difference between the 2 boards for gaming performance.

You can always drop in a 4000 series CPU in a year or so when you get the upgrade bug again.

 

[Wight31]

Correct me if im wrong (Ive mainly only built Intel systems). Dont the 450/470 Boards require a BIOs update and wont run a 3000 series CPU out of the box? Ive also read of systems not posting after the bios update on non 570 boards?

 

[Joxeon]

Correct me if im wrong (Ive mainly only built Intel systems). Dont the 450/470 Boards require a BIOs update and wont run a 3000 series CPU out of the box? Ive also read of systems not posting after the bios update on non 570 boards?

B450/x470 msi "max" boards come with support out the box as they only got released last summer after the ryzen 3000 chips were released.

They also come with bios flashback so you can basically recover a bricked board.

 

[EsaT]

600 Watt PSU.

What's the specific model name/number?
Because scammers put what ever stickers they want into noname PSUs.


No sense to pay high end prices from plain 8 cores/8 threads on dead end upgrade path platform, when before Christmas next-gen consoles will bring 8 cores/16 threads as base line for game development.
And some games like Assassin's Creed Odyssey already scale past 8 cores:
https://youtu.be/vVjdhXAdKE0?t=1m51s
So ability to upgrade in couple years to say 12 core/24 thread improved architecture Zen3 (which likely kicks Intel out from single core/game performance crown) is nice for staying in high end three to four years from now.

2560x1440 anyway means most load is on GPU.
Whose updating now doesn't make sense with current situation.

 

[Wight31]

What's the specific model name/number?
Because scammers put what ever stickers they want into noname PSUs.


No sense to pay high end prices from plain 8 cores/8 threads on dead end upgrade path platform, when before Christmas next-gen consoles will bring 8 cores/16 threads as base line for game development.
And some games like Assassin's Creed Odyssey already scale past 8 cores:
https://youtu.be/vVjdhXAdKE0?t=1m51s
So ability to upgrade in couple years to say 12 core/24 thread improved architecture Zen3 (which likely kicks Intel out from single core/game performance crown) is nice for staying in high end three to four years from now.

2560x1440 anyway means most load is on GPU.
Whose updating now doesn't make sense with current situation.

My PSU is a EVGA 600 watt 80 plus.


And Joxeon thank you for that information regarding the motherboard. That has helped my budget by quite a bit

 

[EsaT]

My PSU is a EVGA 600 watt 80 plus.

Definitely not from worst end, but really low end and far from good.
Already two steps higher 80+ Bronze was low end decade ago.
That should tell how medieval design that plain 80+ is.

Especially if you can afford Nvidia's graphics card prices then you should be able to afford also at least only decade old design PSU.
Bitfenix Formula would be lot better.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/bitfenix-formula-series-650w-80-plus-gold-power-supply-ca-22z-bx.html
But considering bad future proofness of expensive graphics cards 10 year warranty PSU would be more in line.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

@Wight31

Would personally keep 6700k and push to 4.7ghz

Move up to 2070 Super and then wait till Zen3 is out Q3

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1b3-gi.html

I know Assassin creed Origins is a creed on for Ryzen but can see 6700k specially overclocked matches 3600 OC . Ryzen 3600 has a few leads at 1080p but not much when intel is at stock

This is from Gamers Nexus - and this is using RTX 2080ti so at 1080p should really highlight CPU limitations.

Again, save cash and move up from 2070 to 2070Super , or even RTX 2080 Super, spend from now to August saving up rest of funds for Zen3 . Intel's 10th Gen cores should have been out by then too .

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1b7-gi.html

Key is again to overclock your CPU, should hit 4.7ghz easily !!!