Upgrade Advice

BeadyRoller · 22 Jan 2024 at 11:32

Hi so I feel like I want a bit of an upgrade to my system but unsure on what my money is best spent on...

I currently have:

5600x
16gb 3200 Vengeance RAM
3070 GPU
Corsair 750w PSU
M.2 SSD for storage.

I play on a 1440p monitor.

Main games I play are Tarkov and DayZ with some COD and FIFA chucked in. Like the odd AAA single player game from time to time as well.

My thinking was potentially going for a 5800x3D and another 16gb of RAM? Don't have a big budget so don't feel like I can really go for a full refresh in terms of a new gen motherboard, CPU and DDR5 for example, I may be wrong though?

Any advice appreciated,

Cheers.

BeadyRoller · 22 Jan 2024 at 13:30

Thanks guys. I am not really struggling for FPS but I lower the settings quite a bit so would be nice to be able to graphically make my game look better and future proof a bit with a better processor.

Budget wise is around the £300 mark.

BeadyRoller · 23 Jan 2024 at 10:21

Thank you for all the responses everyone!

A lot to think about there.

I was thinking what if I sold my 3070, Ram and 5600x and replaced them with a 6800xt, 32 gb of 3600 RAM and a second hand 5800x3D. Do you think budget wise I wouldn't be far out then? £300-£350.

BeadyRoller · 23 Jan 2024 at 12:34

Thanks for your help Noughtboy. Is there an Nvidia equivalent to the 6900xt? I have no preference really but looking up the 6900xt, there seems to be big issues with drivers for DayZ which is a game I play a lot.

BeadyRoller · 23 Jan 2024 at 14:09

mickyflinn said:
3080.

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Thank you. I might try and see if I can get a 3090 second hand... Give me a bit more to work with in the future.

BeadyRoller · 23 Jan 2024 at 14:44

Also, is it worth getting a complete new set of RAM to get 3600 or should I just save money and get another 16gb of 3200?

BeadyRoller · 25 Jan 2024 at 15:49

Back again! I've had a bit of a lucky win the last couple days and have decided to put it straight back in to a passion of mine which is PC Gaming.

Having figured out my current setup is probably going to fetch me £700-1000 possibly if I sell it I have a new budget of £2500. Don't need windows or a monitor etc.

Do your best guys!

Cheers.

BeadyRoller · 25 Jan 2024 at 18:22

Tetras said:
Intel/nvidia

Swap 4070 TISTSTI for 4080 Super if it looks a better buy on review day.

My basket at OcUK:

1 x Intel Core i7-14700K (Raptor Lake-S) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-INT-00800) = £399.95

1 x Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX (LGA 1700) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-5BK-GI) = £259.99

1 x Corsair Vengeance 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-01125) = £124.99

1 x Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER WindForce OC 16GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics (SKU: GRA-GIG-01546) = £829.99

1 x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 3D NAND NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-075-CR) = £114.95

1 x Phanteks Eclipse P600S Silent Midi Tower Case - Black (SKU: CA-08V-PT) = £139.99

1 x Phanteks M25 140mm PWM High-Airflow Chassis Fan - Black (SKU: FG-033-PT) = £9.95

1 x MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 UK PSU 850W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-00Y-MS) = £110.00

1 x NZXT Kraken 360 Black AIO CPU Water Cooler - 360mm (SKU: HS-02D-NX) = £159.94

Total: £2,161.74 (includes delivery: £11.98)

Thanks very much. I'm guessing this will be perfect for most games at 1440p? Not looking to do any 4K at the moment.

BeadyRoller · 25 Jan 2024 at 19:16

Thanks Micky. How much more pricey is the 4080 going to be do you know?

BeadyRoller · 26 Jan 2024 at 14:30

mickyflinn said:
Not sure but will fit in your budget.

I've done some squeezing to fit a 4090 in the build to get the best gpu but you need to add £100 , this will give you 4k gaming and high 1440p FPS.

Cooler get the Thermalright Phantom spirit 120 for £30 it's the performance king.

My basket at OcUK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £374.99

1 x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 3D NAND NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-075-CR) = £114.95

1 x Lian Li Lancool 216 Mid-tower PC case - Black (SKU: CA-7B8-LL) = £109.99

1 x Gainward GeForce RTX 4090 Phantom 24GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-20L-GW) = £1,589.99

1 x MSI MPG A1000G PCIE5 UK PSU 1000W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-00W-MS) = £139.99

1 x Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6K0-AS) = £169.99

1 x TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLABD532G6000HC38ADC01) (SKU: MY-0B2-TG) = £99.95

Total: £2,607.84 (includes delivery: £7.99)

I think after watching some benchmarks I'd be more inclined to go this route with the 7800x3D, seems a bit better for gaming. I like the inclusion of the 4090. So the only thing I'd need to add to this would be an air cooler? Would that be sufficient?

BeadyRoller · 26 Jan 2024 at 14:30

mickyflinn said:
Not sure but will fit in your budget.

I've done some squeezing to fit a 4090 in the build to get the best gpu but you need to add £100 , this will give you 4k gaming and high 1440p FPS.

Cooler get the Thermalright Phantom spirit 120 for £30 it's the performance king.

My basket at OcUK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £374.99

1 x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 3D NAND NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-075-CR) = £114.95

1 x Lian Li Lancool 216 Mid-tower PC case - Black (SKU: CA-7B8-LL) = £109.99

1 x Gainward GeForce RTX 4090 Phantom 24GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-20L-GW) = £1,589.99

1 x MSI MPG A1000G PCIE5 UK PSU 1000W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-00W-MS) = £139.99

1 x Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6K0-AS) = £169.99

1 x TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLABD532G6000HC38ADC01) (SKU: MY-0B2-TG) = £99.95

Total: £2,607.84 (includes delivery: £7.99)

I think after watching some benchmarks I'd be more inclined to go this route with the 7800x3D, seems a bit better for gaming. I like the inclusion of the 4090. So the only thing I'd need to add to this would be an air cooler? Would that be sufficient?

BeadyRoller · 26 Jan 2024 at 17:56

mickyflinn said:
Yes the cooler I mentioned or it's brother the peerless assassin 120 se can handle no problem.

Here's a review.

Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE Review: Incredible, Affordable Air Cooling Performance

Shockingly cool and quiet, less than $40!

www.tomshardware.com

Also in the 4090 build I changed the ram to low profile so the cooler fits.

Ok great! Would I need to get any extra fan cases at all?

BeadyRoller · 26 Jan 2024 at 19:48

Joxeon said:
The 4090FE is available right now if you want to save a tenner and get a card with better build quality and 3 year warranty.

Are you referring to the Phantom one above? What about it is a better build quality and do they have the same performance?

BeadyRoller · 27 Jan 2024 at 09:29

Just a thought, would my Corsair RM750 Power Supply be able to manage a 4090 and a 5800x 3D?

I'm guessing not.

BeadyRoller · 4 Feb 2024 at 12:21

mickyflinn said:
Not sure but will fit in your budget.

I've done some squeezing to fit a 4090 in the build to get the best gpu but you need to add £100 , this will give you 4k gaming and high 1440p FPS.

Cooler get the Thermalright Phantom spirit 120 for £30 it's the performance king.

My basket at OcUK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £374.99

1 x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 3D NAND NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-075-CR) = £114.95

1 x Lian Li Lancool 216 Mid-tower PC case - Black (SKU: CA-7B8-LL) = £109.99

1 x Gainward GeForce RTX 4090 Phantom 24GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-20L-GW) = £1,589.99

1 x MSI MPG A1000G PCIE5 UK PSU 1000W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-00W-MS) = £139.99

1 x Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6K0-AS) = £169.99

1 x TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLABD532G6000HC38ADC01) (SKU: MY-0B2-TG) = £99.95

Total: £2,607.84 (includes delivery: £7.99)

So I've gone ahead and bought this build, thanks very much for your help.

I have a question, I'm probably over complicating this a lot. I want to move my 1tb Samsung M.2 drive in to my new build so it gives me a bit more storage. It currently has windows 10 on my current PC, I want to wipe that drive before moving it to my new build so it's fresh but want to keep my current PC functional so I can sell it is a full build with Windows. The plan is to install Windows on one of my 2.5 SSDs so my current PC still boots in to Windows for sale.

What is the best way to go about all this?

BeadyRoller · 4 Feb 2024 at 14:49

mickyflinn said:
Is your windows key oem or a retail version if retail you can use it on your new pc but will need a new key for your old

You can Clone the m2 drive to your SSD with macrium reflect choosing what you want to move over , say just windows.

Or do a fresh install and drivers then activate again or let them buy a new key, there cheap enough.

I never activated my Windows, it's just installed using a USB stick.

BeadyRoller · 4 Feb 2024 at 15:04

mickyflinn said:
Ok.

Did you pay for windows or download it for free ?

I just used this:

Download Windows 10

BeadyRoller · 4 Feb 2024 at 15:26

I'm guessing the easiest way is to just move my m.2 in to my new PC with Windows on and then just format it once I've installed Windows 11 on the 2tb drive you've specced me?