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Lonely_Planet

Lonely_Planet

Lonely_Planet

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Hi, So I was originally looking for a new build but have decided to upgrade parts as I cam across a cheap 2070 super.

I am going to need a new motherboard and cpu as they are far too outdated now and being more of a bottleneck, I was thinking a ryzen 5 3600 4.2ghz as it seems good enough for me but I have no idea what Motherboard to switch out too so any help would be appreciated.

Summary
Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i5 4690K @ 3.50GHz 37 °C
Haswell 22nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 933MHz (10-11-10-30)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. Z97P-D3 (SOCKET 0) 29 °C
Graphics
ASUS VN247 (1920x1080@59Hz)
Intel HD Graphics 4600 (Gigabyte)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER (Gigabyte) 42 °C
SLI Disabled
Storage
111GB KINGSTON SV300S37A120G (SATA-2 (SSD)) 24 °C
1863GB Seagate ST2000DX002-2DV164 (SATA ) 28 °C
1863GB Seagate ST2000DM001-1ER164 (SATA ) 28 °C
Optical Drives
ASUS DRW-24F1ST a
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
 
What were you looking to spend?

This could be an option;
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £615.46 (includes shipping: £10.50)​
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Alternatively swap the 5600x for the 3600 and the b550 tomahawk for the b450 tomahawk. That 32gb kit is on offer and a really good price so for the £10-15 difference between a 16gb kit I would go for that. Added a good CPU cooler also but one does come in the box for the 3600 if you wanted to knock some more money off.
 
Biz.Kid09 said:
What were you looking to spend?

This could be an option;
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £615.46 (includes shipping: £10.50)
​


Alternatively swap the 5600x for the 3600 and the b550 tomahawk for the b450 tomahawk. That 32gb kit is on offer and a really good price so for the £10-15 difference between a 16gb kit I would go for that. Added a good CPU cooler also but one does come in the box for the 3600 if you wanted to knock some more money off.
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awesome, I have personally gone for the slightly cheaper alternative MB and CPU just due to the times.

Looks good though, wonder if it's worth waiting on black friday to see if anything comes out cheaper
 
Lonely_Planet said:
awesome, I have personally gone for the slightly cheaper alternative MB and CPU just due to the times.

Looks good though, wonder if it's worth waiting on black friday to see if anything comes out cheaper
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Yeah always worth waiting, especially the 3600 could pop up on a good deal as its last gen.
 
Biz.Kid09 said:
Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo White CPU Cooler - 2 x 120mm= £34.99
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Stop recomminding that needlessly expensive £10 extra fan.
Single fan Freezer 34 for £25 is enough.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/arctic-freezer-34-co-cpu-cooler-120mm-hs-079-ar.html
Adn really doubt that basic size heatsink has enough surface are to really benefit from more airflow...

At least discoutned £37 Cryorig H7 Ultra would have bigger heatsink...
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cryorig-h7-ultra-cpu-heatsink-with-black-120mm-fan-hs-012-cy.html
Though that's very contested price point with another £5 giving some high end coolers.
 
EsaT said:
Stop recomminding that needlessly expensive £10 extra fan.
Single fan Freezer 34 for £25 is enough.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/arctic-freezer-34-co-cpu-cooler-120mm-hs-079-ar.html
Adn really doubt that basic size heatsink has enough surface are to really benefit from more airflow...

At least discoutned £37 Cryorig H7 Ultra would have bigger heatsink...
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cryorig-h7-ultra-cpu-heatsink-with-black-120mm-fan-hs-012-cy.html
Though that's very contested price point with another £5 giving some high end coolers.
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Fair enough, I think the Duo looks a lot nicer and has a secondary fan. If its not good value then thats what this forums for!

Would you say the Cryorig is the better buy for an extra £12 over the 34 or £2 over the duo?
 
Biz.Kid09 said:
Would you say the Cryorig is the better buy for an extra £12 over the 34 or £2 over the duo?
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Cryorig H7's heatsink is 100 grams heavier than that of freezer 34.
So fin stack certainly has more heat dissipating power.

Though again only that now in discount H7 Ultra has four heatpipes to match Arctic and standard H7 might suffer from three heatpipes with high heat output CPUs.
Tweaktown mentioned base being just slightly convex.
So that might not cause risk of less than optimal heat transfer as in some clearly convex base coolers.

Though then there's the thing of price rising rather close to some really beefy coolers like Alpenfohn Brocken 3.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/alpenfohn-brocken-3-cpu-cooler-140mm-hs-05a-al.html

Or Scythe Mugen 5, but that apparently still has strongly Intel optimized clearly convex base, which could be problem with chiplet Ryzens:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/foru...-matching-or-beating-scythe-mugen-5.18902588/

That £35-50 price point is simply very strongly contested.
 
EsaT said:
Cryorig H7's heatsink is 100 grams heavier than that of freezer 34.
So fin stack certainly has more heat dissipating power.

Though again only that now in discount H7 Ultra has four heatpipes to match Arctic and standard H7 might suffer from three heatpipes with high heat output CPUs.
Tweaktown mentioned base being just slightly convex.
So that might not cause risk of less than optimal heat transfer as in some clearly convex base coolers.

Though then there's the thing of price rising rather close to some really beefy coolers like Alpenfohn Brocken 3.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/alpenfohn-brocken-3-cpu-cooler-140mm-hs-05a-al.html

Or Scythe Mugen 5, but that apparently still has strongly Intel optimized clearly convex base, which could be problem with chiplet Ryzens:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/foru...-matching-or-beating-scythe-mugen-5.18902588/

That £35-50 price point is simply very strongly contested.
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Thanks for the reply, the Brocken3 was £35 last week I am sure also which makes that choice tough if they drop the price again. I am in the market myself for one for my 2600x (looking to go to 3900x/5000 series in the future) so will see if there are any deals and then I probably still wont be able to decide!. Apologies for hijacking the thread
 
Looks like recommendation just changed.
Little heavier than Arctic Alpenfohn Brocken Eco Advanced is in darn good £20 discount.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/alpenfohn-brocken-eco-advanced-cpu-cooler-120-mm-hs-05j-al.html
Though even normal £30 price is definitely good for it being 660 gram cooler (vs 605 of Freezer 34) with bigger heatsink.


Biz.Kid09 said:
Thanks for the reply, the Brocken3 was £35 last week I am sure also which makes that choice tough if they drop the price again. I am in the market myself for one for my 2600x (looking to go to 3900x/5000 series in the future) so will see if there are any deals and then I probably still wont be able to decide!. Apologies for hijacking the thread
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Brocken 3 would be very good for high core count models being only little lighter than Mugen 5, which is step behing the best.

There's no doubt some individual variation in shape of cooler's base (same for CPU heatspreader), but Mugen 5 could need lapping it flat.
Pretty dramatic difference in quality of contact/spread of TIM even after such rushed work:
https://www.igorslab.de/en/kuehlerb...amd-and-conkav-reader-test-and-picture-story/
https://www.igorslab.de/en/kuehlerb...-and-conkav-reader-test-and-picture-story/20/

Direct contact heatpipe coolers again have their base always flat, because of manufacturing process not allowing non-flat shape.
 
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