Upgrade and wait on a GPU?

mart1985 · 20 Mar 2025 at 22:44

Gray2233 said:
Actually, you only really need a good 1000W unit for a 5090:

Review: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Founders Edition (reference) (Page 5)

Oh boy, has it been a wait and while, but today is the day that we finally get to review the GeForce RTX 5090.This flagship graphics card aimed at thoroughbred gamers is armed and stuffed with the latest technologies and that mighty Blackwell GB202 graphics processor.

www.guru3d.com

Companies tend to overspec on the basis many people buy weaker PSU's.

Frankly, were it me I'd spend £130-150 on something like a 1000W Superflower Leadex III 3.1.

Thanks @Gray2233 makes sense to save a bit more there too then. Much appreciated.

mart1985 · 20 Mar 2025 at 22:45

Joxeon said:
Nah, it would just be a straight swap of the GPU into whatever the rest of your build is.

Brilliant, thank you. Seems like a move from 3090 to a 9070 XT is reasonably similar performance wise, but a lot better for temps/efficiency.

mickyflinn · 20 Mar 2025 at 22:50

mart1985 said:
Currently more than new 5080s and agree on the lack of warranty.

Tend to game on my AW3225QF which is native 3840 x 2160. A mix of FPS and strategy games (cod/fortnite to total war/civ). No sims.

5080 then imo even though prices are inflated but we've saved you a bundle to offset cost

Just a heads up that on first boot on AM5 it can take up to 15mins for anything to show on screen and may reboot a few times as the motherboard is training the memory so be patient.

Do some research and check benchmarks before you make your final decision.

In off to bed

Enjoy.

mart1985 · 20 Mar 2025 at 22:53

mickyflinn said:
5080 then imo even though prices are inflated but we've saved you a bundle to offset cost

Just a heads up that on first boot on AM5 it can take up to 15mins for anything to show on screen and may reboot a few times as the motherboard is training the memory so be patient.

Do some research and check benchmarks before you make your final decision.

In off to bed

Enjoy.

Thanks for all your advice @mickyflinn much appreciated.

mickyflinn · 20 Mar 2025 at 22:55

mart1985 said:
Thanks for all your advice @mickyflinn much appreciated.

Your welcome .

Let's us know how you get on .

mart1985 · 21 Mar 2025 at 10:09

So I think I have settled on the following:

1 X Antec Flux PRO Full Tower Case - Black - £169.99
SKU: CAS-ATC-03468

1 X Corsair Vengeance EXPO RGB 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - £199.99
SKU: MEM-CRS-03749

1 X AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail - £488.99
SKU: PRO-AMD-03517

1 X MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI (AMD AM5) B850 ATX Motherboard - £244.99
SKU: MOT-MSI-03993

1 X Arctic Liquid Freezer III ARGB High Performance CPU Water Cooler - 360mm - £89.99
SKU: COO-ARC-01992

1 X Antec HCG 1000 Pro Platinum 1000W ATX3.1 Full modular Power Supply - £189.95
SKU: POW-ATC-02746

1 X Asus GeForce RTX 5080 TUF Gaming OC 16GB GDDR7 PCI-Express Graphics Card - £1,499.99
SKU: GRA-ASU-03930

Grand Total: £2,883.89

Seem to be quite a few builds pairing that card with the CPU with good results.

I would then only need to transfer my two SSDs (Samsung 860 QVOs) from my existing build to the new one. I may well get a new SSD though as space is limited on those two. Should I stick with something like a 870 QVO or go for a 980 Pro?

Tetras · 21 Mar 2025 at 12:18

mart1985 said:
Should I stick with something like a 870 QVO or go for a 980 Pro?

Get the m.2, sata ports are disappearing on newer boards, some only have 2

mickyflinn · 21 Mar 2025 at 12:30

5080 tuf gaming is out of stock this is in stock ATM.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-geforce-rtx-5080-rog-astral-oc-16gb-gddr7-pci-express-graphics-card-gra-asu-03929.html

mart1985 · 21 Mar 2025 at 12:39

Tetras said:
Get the m.2, sata ports are disappearing on newer boards, some only have 2

Thanks @Tetras m.2 added.

mart1985 · 21 Mar 2025 at 12:40

mickyflinn said:
5080 tuf gaming is out of stock this is in stock ATM.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-geforce-rtx-5080-rog-astral-oc-16gb-gddr7-pci-express-graphics-card-gra-asu-03929.html

Thanks @mickyflinn it must have gone out of stock as I'm sure it was in stock when I posted!

Having read a few more threads and reviews, I think I might even ditch the 5080 and see how the 3090 performs for now in that new build. Not sure the price justifies the level of performance and to be fair, nothing I play at the moment struggles and the CPU upgrade will help.

mickyflinn · 21 Mar 2025 at 12:46

mart1985 said:
Thanks @mickyflinn it must have gone out of stock as I'm sure it was in stock when I posted!

Having read a few more threads and reviews, I think I might even ditch the 5080 and see how the 3090 performs for now in that new build. Not sure the price justifies the level of performance and to be fair, nothing I play at the moment struggles and the CPU upgrade will help.

I would wait and let's the dust settle £1500 is getting ridiculous.

mart1985 · 21 Mar 2025 at 12:52

mickyflinn said:
I would wait and let's the dust settle £1500 is getting ridiculous.

Agreed. I can't remember what I paid for my FE 3090 but it was around that, so paying similar for what is 4070 super performance is pretty crazy.

Thanks again for your help.

Tetras · 21 Mar 2025 at 12:58

mart1985 said:
Not sure the price justifies the level of performance and to be fair, nothing I play at the moment struggles and the CPU upgrade will help.

I think one of the reasons the 9070 / 9070 XT have been so popular is that they're a more reasonable price for a decent upgrade from older cards like e.g. a 3060 Ti, but when you get to the 3090, there's really nothing out there because the performance gain gen on gen has been very poor in the midrange since the 1000 series.

mart1985 · 21 Mar 2025 at 13:01

Tetras said:
I think one of the reasons the 9070 / 9070 XT have been so popular is that they're a more reasonable price for a decent upgrade from older cards like e.g. a 3060 Ti, but when you get to the 3090, there's really nothing out there because the performance gain gen on gen has been very poor in the midrange since the 1000 series.

Certainly seems like waiting for prices to drop, or more likely, next gen makes sense. Even my 'man maths' can't justify the 5090!

Tetras · 21 Mar 2025 at 13:03

mart1985 said:
Certainly seems like waiting for prices to drop, or more likely, next gen makes sense. Even my 'man maths' can't justify the 5090!

Honestly, at this rate, I don't think the next gen will have anything affordable for you either, at least not with nvidia and their love of GPUs with no VRAM.

mart1985 · 22 Mar 2025 at 22:51

So I went ahead and ordered the new build yesterday and it arrived today (which I wasn't expecting).

Spent ages putting it together, partly due to issues with mounting the AIO. I have been installing programmes and setting up the OS. I thought I would quickly run Warzone and see how temps are and immediately have two issues:

CPU temps immediately jumped to 81 degrees when it loaded. Had hit 70 when installing games in Steam but this just spiked it. Is that going to be an issue with the AIO mounting or thermal paste application? All fans are working and I didn't mess with any of the configurations. Everything is at stock.
Less of an issue, but the GPU temp is not changing on the case control panel (sticks at 35 degrees but MSI Afterburner had it jump to 45 on loading).

I haven't run any stress tests yet but all reviews seemed to suggest I shouldn't be seeing above 70 on temps?

Edit - the fan on the actual casing of the cooler does not appear to be spinning. I have the single cable plugged into the CPU-FAN1 on the mobo and on HWiNFO the fan is idling at less than 1000 RPM. Not sure if this suggest it is not connected correctly or if I need to change any settings? I've tried tightening the bracket but it is well connected.