Upgrade from 5800x to 13700kf lower fps?

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So I just upgraded my system to the 13700k on an MSI z690 Pro-A mb

I was originally running a 5800x with tuned 3800 mhz cl16 DDR4 ram

I'm using the same ram kit on the intel system, clocked at 4000mhz cl15 in G1 but sub timings not as tuned as on the AMD system

All I did was swap out the AMD cpu and MB and put in the Intel. Using an RTX 3080 10gb GPU

The Modern Warfare 2 benchmark I was averaging 178 fps with the AMD CPU. The Intel CPU I'm getting around 160 fps.

I figured my older 5800x was holding back my 3080 some. So I'm pretty shocked that performance is worse.

Anyone have any ideas what might be causing this? I score 31k in Cinebench R23 so the system seems to be performing as it should.

 

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I'm not sure, memory tuning helps a lot on Ryzen. However, I'd expect the latest Intel CPUs to still be faster. Have you updated to the latest BIOS and did you do a fresh install of Windows on changing all that hardware?

Yes I have the latest bios on a fresh Windows install.

 

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did you do a fresh windows install? If not, Its probably worth.

Yes it is a fresh install

What settings in the Warzone 2 benchmark? GPU bottleneck for me is 99% (with a 3090 Ti)

Everything is set to low. Resolution is set to 2560 x 1440p

Would a 5800x bottleneck a 3080? I don’t think it would in general??

From what I seen with others, it will bottleneck some. Especially on the 1% lows. Regardless, a 13700kf should not be lower fps than a 5800x.

Are you running Windows 10 or Windows 11? And have you run the Intel overclocking utility?

Tried windows 10 and 11, no difference. Never used Intel overclocking utility.

It has me puzzled lol. I get the MW2 benchmark is not the best tool, but it is the game I am currently playing. So losing around 18 fps average with the same settings just makes no sense to me.

 

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Dunno why anyone would think a 5800X would hold back a 3080 @ 1440p. For the 1% lows you should have kept MOBO and got a 5800X3D which is a beast of a CPU for 1% lows.

Not sure what you were thinking with this "upgrade" at all tbh.

I should clarify that I do not expect huge gains going to the 13700kf. I do not think it should be lower FPS either....
I swapped to it because from the benchmarks that I have seen, and the games I play, the 13700kf gets higher average and generally much better 1% lows.
This is being compared to the 5800x3d as well. So it should be much better than my 5800x non 3D.

Also bought the 13700k so I can build my nephew a PC with my 5800x for Xmas and later give him my RTX 3080 when I get a 4090 or something in the near future.

So again. I expected to have a little better average fps, with better lows. Resulting in a smoother feel in game and having a newer platform for when I swap in a better GPU

 

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Would have just bought the 5800X3D then sold the 5800x to cover half the upgrade cost. You would have ended up with a better system tbh.

As I said, I'm using my 5800x to build a system for my nephew. I do not need anyone to tell me what I should have bought. So I'm not sure why people keep telling me about the 5800x3D....

I looked into the 5800x3D before. It performs worse in pretty much every title. Games that I play like warzone especially prefer intel over AMD. AMD has terrible 1% lows, and even the 5800x3D still has the issue in certain titles.

This is not a 13700k vs 5800x3D thread. My question has to do with the 13700kf vs my 5800x.

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I checked, it's disabled.