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Upgrade From A GTX1050

Vern1961

Vern1961

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Looking for a bit of advice as to the best choice for an upgrade to the above which wasn’t exactly state of the art when I fitted it 18 months ago.

Motherboard is an ASUS Z87-K and an I7 4770 CPU. System memory 8Gb going up to 16Gb on Monday playing catch-up on that too. My PSU is in the 350 to 400 watt range. I’m guessing the system is too old for a RTX card but looking for a bit more poke to run modern titles and with one eye on Flight Sim 2020 later in the year. Budget looking up to £150 though might go higher as still cheaper than buying a new PC.
 
A 1650 Super would be fine in that system with its low power draw, graphics cardacard prices are through the roof so you won't be getting any even mid range at that budget level
 
If I read the specs correctly on OCUK a 1650 Super is about twice as powerful as a GTX1050 with 2Gb of VRAM. There’s a nice looking ASUS one on OCUK for £200 which I’m sure the budget will stretch to and give the system another year or two of life.
 
If you're stretching to £200, that is getting towards 1660 territory. I know prices have lurched, but I wouldn't be spending over the odds for a 1650 super, some do sell for £160 on here so stick to that price bracket.
 
1660 and 1650 Super are essentially the same, no reason to overspend.

1660 & 1660 Ti are remnants from launch day, but today you should only look at 1650 Super and 1660 Super unless pricing is on par (1650 Super = 1660; 1660 Super = 1660 Ti).

Tbh it's hard to recommend a card with only 4 GB of vram today, and I'd probably take the 5500 XT 4 GB over the 1650 Super anyway.

The real question is, how good is your PSU? We need to know make and model. 350-400w can be plenty for a lot of powerful GPUs. If the PSU is even half-decent I'd honestly recommend looking for a used GPU as that will give you much greater performance/$. Thinking in particular of an 8 GB Polaris card. Heck, you have enough posts to keep an eye on the member's market. There was a 480 8GB going for just £92 a few days ago. So, same performance, double the vram and half the price of a 1650 Super. Kinda hard to spend on a new card given all that.
 
I'll check the PSU when I open the case in a day or two to fit the RAM. However I suspect it's the generic PSU the builder (not OCUK) fitted to Coolermaster cases when it was purchased three or four years ago.
 
I managed to dig out my original order from the builder and the PSU is a CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES™ VS-450 POWER SUPPLY.

So can I assume that would just about be man enough to handle a GTX 1650 Super?
 
do you know that a high end system with a 2080ti would probably never reach 400W when both cpu and gpu are in use at 100% (stress test situation, never gaming or real life)? Are you really worried about using a 1650 with a 350w psu? I used an RX 5700 XT with a 450W PSU and was never close to even activate the psu fan!
 
Mark011 said:
do you know that a high end system with a 2080ti would probably never reach 400W when both cpu and gpu are in use? Are you really worried about using a 1650 with a 350w psu? I used an RX 5700 XT with a 450W PSU and was never close to even activate the psu fan!
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Thanks Mark - be assured I'm quite happy my PSU will be able to drive the 1650, just need to arrange ordering one.
 
Vern1961 said:
Thanks Mark - be assured I'm quite happy my PSU will be able to drive the 1650, just need to arrange ordering one.
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yeah don't worry about it, even if the psu you have now has a very bad efficiency it should still give you enough power for a 1650/1660
 
Mark011 said:
do you know that a high end system with a 2080ti would probably never reach 400W when both cpu and gpu are in use at 100% (stress test situation, never gaming or real life)? Are you really worried about using a 1650 with a 350w psu? I used an RX 5700 XT with a 450W PSU and was never close to even activate the psu fan!
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This is certainly true, but PSUs generally aren't designed to run anywhere near 100%, I'd ideally not want to push them more than 50% for long-term usage. The other issue is that poor quality generic PSUs often offer nowhere near their rated wattage, with a quality 350-450 PSU, or in your case 450, then practically any modern system with a midrange CPU and GPU will be totally fine, but with a cheap one, anything with a PCI-E power connector can be unstable. That system should be comfortably under 150 with a 1650 in average gaming load and under 200 at maximum CPU/GPU load, depending on other devices.
 
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