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Upgrade from Nvidia 9800

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I am currently running the above 500MB card but it is getting less good with modern games - even GTA IV could have done with more onboard memory. So, I want to upgrade.

This morning an email from OCUK offered the Nvidia GTS 450 at a remarkable price of £99 which seems a very good deal but would I be ebtter spending more and getting a better card now? I know the VAT difference with be slight next year but I would like to do something before the VAT increases.

My concerns are for the obviously better performance by also for the onboard memory.
 
i think you should consider the gtx 460.. for a few pounds more you're getting 'day and night' difference in performance. google gtx 460 reviews and that will help you make up your mind.
 
Thanks for the ade but it is not showing up. vice, folks. My system spec I thought I had as a signature but it is not showing up. My system is -

Q6600 running at stock
4GB RAM
Nvidia 9800 GT graphics.
 
The minimum you should go for IMHO is the 460 768mb. But really if you can afford the very little extra go for the 460 1gb :-) Will be a very good upgrade compared to your card for relatively little money :-)

Also, overclock that Q6600, it will really hold things back gaming wise until you clock it.
 
Yea, definitely overclock that Q6600. At stock speed 2.4GHz, then chances are even your 9800GT will be bottlenecked in games that use no more than two cores. Don't upgrade your graphic card until you have overclocked your Q6600 first. Even the 9800GT should have room for some overclocking.
 
As already said the gts450 is about as quick as a gts250, both are slower than a an ati 5770 that costs the same. You should be looking at a 768mb 460 (asus top is a cracking card for £130) as a minimum anything less is a sidestep.

What res is your monitor?
 
Get that quad clocked. If performance is still too low, get the gtx460, but not before clocking your q6600 to >3ghz. The performance difference with my q6600 at stock and at 3.2 is just huge.
 
thanks to all the advice folks. I've only had a go at overclocking a couple of times without much success but will have a go at the weekend when my son is around to assist. (He also has the same process that has not, as yet, overclocked it.)

I think my experience with the GTA IV game it shows that the more RAM on the graphics card the better so I think I will order for the 1 GB card even though it is more expensive and it is likely to get better performance. Just a matter of finding funds I suppose ...
 
actually, after looking at the OCUK page of graphics cards I wonder whether the 460 all before 65 is a better card. I have been looking at the specifications and it seems that some parts of each other good -- it appears the 465 manages PhysX technology whilst the 460 is any prepared for it.

How does one choose between the 460 and the 465? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
Get the 460, not the 465. The 465 is gf100, it runs hotter, uses much more power, and isn't actually any faster than the gf104 460.
 
All 400 series run PhysX really well. The 460 is actually a better card overall compared to the 465.
If you need help overclocking that Q6600, feel free to ask us :)
 
thanks to all the advice folks. I've only had a go at overclocking a couple of times without much success but will have a go at the weekend when my son is around to assist. (He also has the same process that has not, as yet, overclocked it.)

I think my experience with the GTA IV game it shows that the more RAM on the graphics card the better so I think I will order for the 1 GB card even though it is more expensive and it is likely to get better performance. Just a matter of finding funds I suppose ...

It took me about 3 hours from zero OC experiance to know roughly what to do, it then took a few more hours of experimentation to get it all stable

My best advice is to look at what other people with your chip have overclocked too and the voltage they used to get there

Next best advice is to no OC the memory, just the chip, a moderate OC (one that does not require a great deal of changes to achieve) on your choip would be 3ghz, perhaps try for 3.2 after your more confident, believe me OC my old dual core, and now quad core makes all the differance, i would not even bother with a card upgrade until you have done the OC

As for the cards, a 460 is a good choice, and will along with a 3.00 ghz + quad offer solid gaming performance for at least another 12 months
 
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