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Upgrade of 2x 280x

413x

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Looking to upgrade the two cards I just sold.
Half of the reason for sale is hassle of

Been out of the game for ages so really don't have a clue what to get.

Looking for 4k reasonable capability.

Not willing to spend would rather to 200 than 3.
Happy to do second hand

Cpu is 4770k
 
Sorry, but if you want to game at 4K at reasonable frame rate, you need a 1080Ti, and that's more than 3 times of what you would want to spend.

The fastest card you MAY find at under £300 is probably a 2nd hand 980Ti; performance for new cards in the £200~£300 price bracket has barely moved on for the pass 4 years :o
 
Yeah. Looking at prices they are much more than I thought.
Probably more willing to drop the resolution than up the price.
Have een 1 go for 300. Cou probably stret to that.
Surface book has a 1060.max Q so need something worth getting!
 
413x said:
Looking to upgrade the two cards I just sold.
Half of the reason for sale is hassle of

Been out of the game for ages so really don't have a clue what to get.

Looking for 4k reasonable capability.

Not willing to spend would rather to 200 than 3.
Happy to do second hand

Cpu is 4770k
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If you want 4k desktop use, then any 10 series GPU would be fine.

If you want 4k gaming, for £300 max you're probably going to be limited to a 2nd hand 1070 at most. A 1070 will do 4k fine if you can live with playing at medium-high settings.
 
If push comes to shove (it is) then I'll drop the resolution rather than the graphics.

My plan is a lot of the time to sofa play so I think pixel count will be less important than frame rate and visuals.

I don't play online multiplayer either. So not bothered about 144hz or whatever.
 
At a distance you'll definitely notice the resolution more than graphics. I have the 1070 in my HTPC and at 4k medium settings with textures on ultra it looks super crisp. Dropping the resolution results in a blurry mess.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
Sorry, but if you want to game at 4K at reasonable frame rate, you need a 1080Ti, and that's more than 3 times of what you would want to spend.
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No .

1070 provides reasonable 4k gameplay .... bf1 for example . avg 50fps @ 3840 x 2160 @ ultra and TAA with minimums the same with a strong processor. 60 fps attainable with few tweaks to shadows etc .

Its on the higher end of your budget but itll do the job quiet well if "reasonable" is your expectation .
 
MasterOC said:
No .

1070 provides reasonable 4k gameplay .... bf1 for example . avg 50fps @ 3840 x 2160 @ ultra and TAA with minimums the same with a strong processor. 60 fps attainable with few tweaks to shadows etc .

Its on the higher end of your budget but itll do the job quiet well if "reasonable" is your expectation .
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https://www.gamespot.com/forums/sys...isnt-enough-for-4k60fpsmax-settings-33392389/

And it's only going to get worse when old gen cards performance start to tank in newer games when new gen cards arrive with Nvidia stop optimising driver performance for new games for old cards.

Regardless, OP ain't going to find a card at sub £300 new or old to be able to game in 4K "reasonably".
 
Going to go for the 1070 (anything else means may as well get a ps4 pro).
And going to stick to the 1440p as a half way house (no 4k monitor yet)
 
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Spyhop said:
Wasteful max settings being pushed as the "correct" way to play is an industry scam to keep people perpetually spending. Just ignore them and things become sane.
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May be. But there's no denying the performance of the sub £300 cards currently available is quite poor, as they stagnated and have barely moved-on from the R9 290/GTX780 series level performance from 4 years ago. Because of this, the consoles are actually looking very appealing for what they offer for the price.
 
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It is, unless you're into mobile gaming.
As it stands, a non max-q 1060 in a laptop is pretty much bang on if not faster than a desktop R9 290. You'd never have managed to fit a hot and hungry desktop R9 290 into a laptop, so realistically this is where the progress has been for the gamers. Not going to disagree that desktops have stagnate far more than they should have done though!

OP - 1070 is probably your best bet. It'll play everything as long as you're willing to moderate your settings, especially if you can get a nice overclock.
Performance wise it'll likely be about twice as fast overall (sometimes better) than your old 280x/7970s, except when crossfire worked, where some of that'll be lost, but at the same time it's single card so your performance should be more consistant. It will at least feel better for that reason if nothing else!
 
I've decided and got myself a 1070
Going to stick to 1440 ips 60hz (ips is more important than 144hz as I don't game competitive)

I was surprised the cards are so expensive for so little in such a long development time. If Xfire was simple I could have just stuck with my old cards.
Having said that I didn't expect to sell the for 100 each. So the 1070 was only 75 more really.

My surface book 2 has a 1060 max-q and I can't believe that it's possible to fit it in.
I was planning to sell my desktop and just use my surface book. But it feels I'm hammering it too much. And I should just use that when I'm away. Not day to day.

It is interesting in the console sector. And if I end up never using the desktop and just TV gaming may look to get console.

Problem with console is I have no games.
 
413x said:
I've decided and got myself a 1070
Going to stick to 1440 ips 60hz (ips is more important than 144hz as I don't game competitive)

I was surprised the cards are so expensive for so little in such a long development time. If Xfire was simple I could have just stuck with my old cards.
Having said that I didn't expect to sell the for 100 each. So the 1070 was only 75 more really.

My surface book 2 has a 1060 max-q and I can't believe that it's possible to fit it in.
I was planning to sell my desktop and just use my surface book. But it feels I'm hammering it too much. And I should just use that when I'm away. Not day to day.

It is interesting in the console sector. And if I end up never using the desktop and just TV gaming may look to get console.

Problem with console is I have no games.
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One reason that I'm still only my 290x and not upgraded is on principle of refusing to pay so much for so little gain after so many years have passed. We should really have gotten a card of 1080Ti's level at around sub £500 by now, but they are still priced at £670+, and all we are getting at sub £500 are just the 1070 and 1080 that are under the hood not even the high-end flagship chip, but a mid-range chip in cards that Nvidia can sell for that price due to AMD's inability in competing with them.

One of the biggest shortcoming of PS4 Pro and Xbox One X is that whilst they got slow CPU, that can actually bottleneck the GPU(s). They are only for gaming in general, but they get seriously hammered when playing online with lots of things happening and popping all over the place at the same time (one of the key reason why PUBG run like tard on the Xbox One X poor optimisation from developer aside).

So in a nutshell, gaming PC will always remain the best experience for playing AAA titles (abut rubbish console ports) but at a cost; consoles on the other hand much lower price to start and are nice to have even just for playing those exclusives that are not available on PC platform. At the moment I am take a break from chasing the graphic cards that seem to be going nowhere, and got myself a PS4 Pro and a Switch to play the various exclusives. The PS4 Pro and a Switch together cost LESS than a bloody 1080Ti lol
 
413x said:
Half of the reason for sale is hassle of
Not willing to spend would rather to 200 than 3.
Happy to do second hand
Cpu is 4770k
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I went from 2x 280x (7970ghz) to a Nvidia 1070 a couple of years ago.
3gb was a bigger issue than crossfire, but it was - as you say - always a hassle. [actually the power draw heat output was the biggest problem]

1070 (and Nvidia 980Ti) is exactly twice the speed of 280x (assuming no memory issues). So 20% faster than crossfire assuming it was working well.
980Ti is within your budget. Would suit 1440p 60hz, 1080p 120hz, or even 1440 superwide when overclocked.
 
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