Upgrade options for the system on 8700k

Mugen_fd2

Mugen_fd2

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At the moment I have i7 8700k on top of taichi z370 and 3070 as core of my pc. Having upgraded my tv to 4k 120hz and monitor to 1440p 165hz I would like to plan of upgrading pc hardware to future proof it and in case of upgrading gpu to 40 or 50 series. Main reason 8700k will be bottlenecking gpu and other is its still hold some value 2nd hand to fund upgrade.

Im thinking i7 13700 will be a good upgrade and should serve me at least as good as 8700k without being too expensive.

What motherboard would you recommend? Similar in price and vrm quality as my z370 taichi but maybe from z790? Im staying at ddr4 level as I have good team 32gb sticks already.

Guessing power supply will have to be upgraded as well? Running SSR-650FX at the moment.
 
I would think that paying for a Taichi equivalent on an EOL platform is throwing away money. Either consider a good mid range Z790 or a great B760 if you insist on staying on Intel. The better option is to consider AMD 7000 although if you want to keep your RAM, a 5000 series (5800X3D) and great B650 will set you back about £450 but also no upgrade available.

FWIW, an AMD 7600X on a good X670 will set you back less than £700 and provide upgrade options for another 2 generations at least.
 
Mugen_fd2 said:
What about my 1440p 165hz monitor? Games like assassin creed, cyberpunk etc?
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This shows CPU scaling at 1440p for cyberpunk, you're 8700k would be around the level of a ryzen 5 3600X. as you can see improving the CPU doesnt really effect performance while the GPU on the other hand gives it a big boost.

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What’s the better option now between 4070 and 4070ti? 4080 is over 1k which is my limit. Or maybe just to skip this generation and wait for 50 series?
 
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Mugen_fd2 said:
What about my 1440p 165hz monitor? Games like assassin creed, cyberpunk etc?
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If you going 1440p the 7800x3d should be on your list with a b650 if gaming is your primary use.

Cost around £600 with 32gb ddr5.

While CPU scaling isn't big in Cyberpunk there are and will be games that perform much better with the x3d.

If not the 7600x is still a solid choice and will save you £130.

Although if your DDR 4 is 3000mhz + the 13700 14600k will make it a much cheaper upgrade.
 
Mugen_fd2 said:
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i just won a 4070 that i have now sold... but i did test it a little before hand and i have to say the performance was stunning it really was a fantastic card at 1440p 160hz.
i genuinely considered selling my 4080 and keeping the 4070.

for my the price of a 4070ti(new) is close to a 4080 used.. so thats a no no.
if you want new 4070 and if your happy at used grab a 4080

but for £550 the 4070 is a very nice card
 
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Mugen_fd2 said:
What’s the better option now between 4070 and 4070ti? 4080 is over 1k which is my limit. Or maybe just to skip this generation and wait for 50 series?
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A 4070 is barely an upgrade over the 3070 imo, so really you'd be looking at either a 4070ti or 7900XT to see worthwhile gains, the 4070ti has less raster but better RT+DLSS while the 7900XT has stronger raster and 20gb of VRAM for longevity.

Nvidia are supposed to releasing a super refresh in the new year so personally I'd probably hang on till them before making a decision.

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Joxeon said:
An 8700k would be fine at 4k paired with a 3070, if anything its the GPU you'll want to be upgrading.
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Agreed.

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See either Power W (top) or Load% (3rd down), the blue lines are for an i5-8400 with green for the 3080, all at 4K@60. Its on a Corsair SF600, but you can see my total power is under 400w.
 
I was looking into 7800x3d/b650 combo, but looks like there's a few posts with unstable performance and people fiddling with bios updates etc. Does it mean that AMD platform has teething problems at this point and Intel 13/14 gen is more reliable at this point?
 
Noughtboy said:
I would think that paying for a Taichi equivalent on an EOL platform is throwing away money. Either consider a good mid range Z790 or a great B760 if you insist on staying on Intel. The better option is to consider AMD 7000 although if you want to keep your RAM, a 5000 series (5800X3D) and great B650 will set you back about £450 but also no upgrade available.

FWIW, an AMD 7600X on a good X670 will set you back less than £700 and provide upgrade options for another 2 generations at least.
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AM5 patform for 7000 series cpu are all DDR5, so 5800X3d would need a b550 board. But get what you meaning, though would just sticj with B650E board and 7600X...AMD really didn't want dud boards for AM5, so even the B650 boards are good, with exception of the cheap asus prime boards where the vrms struggle. My strix b650 board is on a 8 layer pcb, comes with pcie 5 and nvme slot, (can take 4 of those too though gen4 for most), loads of i/o and decent vrm that'll have no problem running anything...when you think most x570 boards were 6 layer pcb, generally had 2 nvme slots etc, even the b650 is a massive upgrade over x570..X670 just seem to get a few more i/o (as chipset is basically 2 b650 chipsets) and massive vrm for those that want to try and break records as they're such overkill.
Still if you want best gaming atm, pair a 7800x3d (£350..was cheaper BF but oh well), if you happy with gen 4 gpu/pcie then tuf gaming b650 wifi for £150 (will give you a pcie 5 nvme slot too though not gpu, but 4090 barely slows down on pcie3 slot, so wouldn't worry too much on missing out on pcie5, pcie4 will do) and 32GB 6000c30 ddr5 for £125-135 area(so £650 will get you best gaming combo you can buy at mo..gpu price aside)...seen 7800x3d with the msi tomahawk for £530 also(but seeing as that's all gen4 and still more expensive than the tuf, would just go with tuf), or if you want pcie5 for both and happy with 3 nvme slot, the asus b650e-f..4 slots, the b650e-e
 
Mugen_fd2 said:
I was looking into 7800x3d/b650 combo, but looks like there's a few posts with unstable performance and people fiddling with bios updates etc. Does it mean that AMD platform has teething problems at this point and Intel 13/14 gen is more reliable at this point?
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I've got 7800x3d, asus strix b650e-e and 6000c30 ram. Initially, ram was unstable at 6000 speed as mobo had original bios etc, but that's all fixed now with latest bios from few months back. updated bios lowered voltage going thru cpu(after the cpu overheating problem on a few cpu's) so now stable at 1.24V(need to double check but below the 1.3V recommendation from AMD), and also the stability issues with Ram were fixed(from AGEAS updates that are in new bios). I have zero problems now. Personally, i wouldn't be worried about it, and the am5 cpu's draw a lot less power than the intel too, so you can just run it on air cooling no problem, making that part of build cheaper too(unless you really want an aio which is fine too)

Oh, and prices have changed somewhat too..I bought 7800x3d on prelaunch for £450 forOCuk, and just after launch it went up to £470 i think with demand, now £100 cheaper..most b650 mobo's were £250+.(that tuf board was at least £230 at time, but got my B650e-e for £280 where it was seliing for £350 at time)..only thing I got cheaper was the ram, but not by much..so value wise it's got a lot better
 
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