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Im after some advice.

I have an urge to upgrade the whole PC, part upgrade or a new monitor.. I use the PC for some work (word, excel), Photography (DXO etc) watching films and gaming. Primary use is photography processing and gaming. At present Delta Force, Warzone and PUBG. Gaming at 2560 x 1440p.

Im not sure especially given the GPU prices if getting a better monitor (example 4K) and GPU will make a noticeable difference in games either FPS or indeed picture quality. I then wonder if my system would bottleneck a 5 series GPU?

At the extreme end of the scale I could buy a whole new system with a budget between £3-4,000 ready built. However, part of me is struggling with that idea if given my use I notice very little difference.

Im out of the loop with new hardware so advice appreciated.

My present system is:

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X CPU

Asus ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING

2x16G Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB DDR4 3200

EVGA Nvidia RTX 3080 GPU

1TB Corsair MP600 M.2 PCIe

2TB Samsung 860 EVO 2.5 SSD SATA

1TB Seagate SATA HDD

Corsair RM850X PSU

Monitor Dell S2721DGF
 
Personally I have 5950x and 3080ti
So a bit higher than you have
Do get upgrade itch
But it's not a i need to do it more a I want it
And to be honest a nvidia 5xxx card is hard
To recommend
Low availability and inflated prices
Make anything that's a meaningful upgrade
From a 3080ti a no go for me
Amd 9070xt possibly since can actually find some
And while a bit over msrp not insanely so

If you spent 3 or 4 grand
Would you get a performance increase
Of course you would
Would it be good value for the cost is another matter
Especially if got something like 5080
And spending that much
Would want a monitor upgrade to go with it
Maybe 3440 x 1440p wide-screen or 4k

So guess I would say stick with what you have
A while longer
Other than maybe a monitor upgrade
I upgraded to a 3440 x 1440p oled
And resisted (so far lol) upgrading hardware

It doesn't sound like what you have
Is struggling with what you use it for
Which is same situation I find myself in
 
AnastieByte said:
Primary use is photography processing and gaming.
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If you're doing decently multithreaded work, the 5900X is already pretty capable, roughly equivalent to the 7700X. Realistically, you'd need at least something like a 9900X or 265K to see a decent uplift there.

Gaming is different, the 5900X is still a good gaming CPU, but it has definitely slid down the charts and is behind the 5800X3D and very behind the latest X3D CPUs. Still, even if you went with something like a 9900X3D or 9950X3D, meaningfully upgrading from a 3080 is extremely expensive and not good value.
 
AnastieByte said:
Im after some advice.

I have an urge to upgrade the whole PC, part upgrade or a new monitor.. I use the PC for some work (word, excel), Photography (DXO etc) watching films and gaming. Primary use is photography processing and gaming. At present Delta Force, Warzone and PUBG. Gaming at 2560 x 1440p.

Im not sure especially given the GPU prices if getting a better monitor (example 4K) and GPU will make a noticeable difference in games either FPS or indeed picture quality. I then wonder if my system would bottleneck a 5 series GPU?

At the extreme end of the scale I could buy a whole new system with a budget between £3-4,000 ready built. However, part of me is struggling with that idea if given my use I notice very little difference.

Im out of the loop with new hardware so advice appreciated.

My present system is:

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X CPU

Asus ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING

2x16G Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB DDR4 3200

EVGA Nvidia RTX 3080 GPU

1TB Corsair MP600 M.2 PCIe

2TB Samsung 860 EVO 2.5 SSD SATA

1TB Seagate SATA HDD

Corsair RM850X PSU

Monitor Dell S2721DGF
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You're joking right?
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Personally I have 5950x and 3080ti
So a bit higher than you have
Do get upgrade itch
But it's not a i need to do it more a I want it
And to be honest a nvidia 5xxx card is hard
To recommend
Low availability and inflated prices
Make anything that's a meaningful upgrade
From a 3080ti a no go for me
Amd 9070xt possibly since can actually find some
And while a bit over msrp not insanely so

If you spent 3 or 4 grand
Would you get a performance increase
Of course you would
Would it be good value for the cost is another matter
Especially if got something like 5080
And spending that much
Would want a monitor upgrade to go with it
Maybe 3440 x 1440p wide-screen or 4k

So guess I would say stick with what you have
A while longer
Other than maybe a monitor upgrade
I upgraded to a 3440 x 1440p oled
And resisted (so far lol) upgrading hardware

It doesn't sound like what you have
Is struggling with what you use it for
Which is same situation I find myself in
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Tetras said:
If you're doing decently multithreaded work, the 5900X is already pretty capable, roughly equivalent to the 7700X. Realistically, you'd need at least something like a 9900X or 265K to see a decent uplift there.

Gaming is different, the 5900X is still a good gaming CPU, but it has definitely slid down the charts and is behind the 5800X3D and very behind the latest X3D CPUs. Still, even if you went with something like a 9900X3D or 9950X3D, meaningfully upgrading from a 3080 is extremely expensive and not good value.
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Thanks for this. I'm so out of touch I had no idea if what I have was still good enough. So I appreciate the points made. Im now thinking Ill consider going to OLED monitor and keeping what I have for a bit longer.
 
AnastieByte said:
Thanks for this. I'm so out of touch I had no idea if what I have was still good enough. So I appreciate the points made. Im now thinking Ill consider going to OLED monitor and keeping what I have for a bit longer.
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Am4 is one of if not
The best sockets ever made
Huge choice of cpus that go with it
Severe longevity
My am4 motherboard has 5 x m2
2 x usb 4/thunderbolt ports and other stuff
Basically just about everything any newer motherboard
Could offer
And of course second hand cpu upgrade
Or motherboard upgrade prices are very good
From a buyers point of view
So you could upgrade to a 5950x for more multithreading power
Or to a x3d cpu for more gaming fps
For a really good price

The fact it's so many years old now
Is irrelevant as long as it continues to do what you need it to
And as already mentioned
Upgrading to a high end nvidia 5xxx card half of
Your budget would be on a 5080 for example
You can't even get a used rtx 4090 for a sensible price either
Because the 5xxx series debacle has over inflated even
The top 4xxx series cards second hand prices
So it's definitely not a good time to upgrade to a high end nvidia card
And coming from a 3080 you would want at least a 5070ti or more

As mentioned
Monitor is about the most obvious thing
In your position to consider
Oled prices are coming down
And almost every oled now has 3 year burn in warranty
Which was what put a lot of people off before
And the latest oled generation has clearer text than previous generations
Which was another concern for some people
You can get a 240hz large oled
Which would be future proof as probably can't max it out now
But a future upgrade in gpu may
If the gpu market insanity ever goes away
The new amd gpus are very good for the money
But they aren't competing against nvidia in the "high end" cards
For at least this generation anyway amd are aiming for
More market share/% in the "mid end" market
 
AnastieByte said:
Thanks for this. I'm so out of touch I had no idea if what I have was still good enough. So I appreciate the points made. Im now thinking Ill consider going to OLED monitor and keeping what I have for a bit longer.
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There are a fair few people in a very similar position to you (that have good CPUs and a 3080). Things just haven't moved on like they used to (look at the 5000 series, for example, most cards have barely had any gains on the last gen) and prices are very high.
 
Tetras said:
There are a fair few people in a very similar position to you (that have good CPUs and a 3080). Things just haven't moved on like they used to (look at the 5000 series, for example, most cards have barely had any gains on the last gen) and prices are very high.
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Cheers. Yes I'm surprised by how little things have progressed in some ways and the GPU prices vs performance gains are crazy!
 
I don't know how well your other two listed games perform between the main vendors, but CoD games at the least very much prefer AMD cards to the point there should be a big uplift going from a 3080 to a 9070XT, AMD also has the advantage of less driver overhead.

I wouldn't be in a rush coming from what you have, but I would consider a GPU upgrade to the aforementioned 9070XT and keeping the rest (but do look into how much uplift you'd expect in your games before pulling the trigger), I'd wait until you can find one for actual MSRP however which could be awhile.

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AMD Knocks Nvidia Down a Peg or Two

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I had similar specs (5900, 3080ti) and upgraded to a 7900x3d and 4080 Super.

The GPU upgrade made a solid improvement to DXO performance (export are noticeably faster with Deep Prime), but the CPU upgrade didn't make any noticeable difference there.

With your current specs, I'd be looking at a GPU upgrade and maybe a 4k monitor.
 
adrichardson81 said:
I had similar specs (5900, 3080ti) and upgraded to a 7900x3d and 4080 Super.

The GPU upgrade made a solid improvement to DXO performance (export are noticeably faster with Deep Prime), but the CPU upgrade didn't make any noticeable difference there.

With your current specs, I'd be looking at a GPU upgrade and maybe a 4k monitor.
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Yeah this is where my thinking is now.
Farore said:
What games are you playing?
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Warzone, PUBG, Delta Force and just starting Cyberpunk
 
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