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Digit

Digit

Digit

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Hi all,

Just after a bit of advice on whether the parts I intend to upgrade to will be ok and a few queries.

What I currently have:
Intel 9700K
32GB 3200MHz (2x 16GB)
Asus TUF Z390-Plus Gaming
Zotac RTX 3070Ti Trinity OC
Corsair H100x RGB Elite

Parts I am thinking of:
14900K - This is where I am bothered as I have read quite a bit about these chips in regards to high temps. Even though I intend to run a 360mm AIO on this.
I don't want a chip that's hitting 90c+ on a regular basis. I do run VR and noticed it's what sent my 9700K in to it's higher temps range. Albeit was getting mid 60c to 70c.
Are the 13900K chips just as bad?
Corsair Dominator Titanium RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-57600C34 7200MHz Dual Kit
Asus ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming WIFI
A variant of the upcoming RTX 4080S (Once they become available)
Corsair Hydro Series iCUE H150i RGB ELITE Performance Liquid CPU Cooler - 360mm

I don't need a case (Recently bought a Corsair 3000D Airflow) or PSU (Recently bought a 850W EVGA GQ Gold Hybrid)
I also have more than enough NVME drives, SSD's, HDD's.
But I do plan on buying new Keyboard/Mouse. So round about £300'ish for these as I want a mechanical keyboard.
This will mainly be for gaming. And I have a budget of 3K

Is there anything that stands out as a no no?
My main concern was the CPU.
Oh and AMD is not on the cards for me. I know they are doing pretty well these day's but I just prefer Intel (Don't hate me ;))

Thanks in advance for any input.
 
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Unless you really need the 14900K for multi-threaded productivity workloads a 14700K or even a 14600K would be a better buy for gaming, but the 14900K should be kept in check by a 360mm AIO if you really must have one. The 12900K, 13900K and 14900K are all as bad as each other in terms of heat and power consumption.

The rest of the system will work fine together but is rather extravagant and you could save money in a few places. You could go for a 14700K, cheaper motherboard, 6000 MHz RAM and an Arctic Freezer 360 AIO and not notice any drops in performance or quality for a lot less cash.

If you don't care about getting the best bang for your buck then ignore all of that :D
 
Tediore said:
Unless you really need the 14900K for multi-threaded productivity workloads a 14700K or even a 14600K would be a better buy for gaming, but the 14900K should be kept in check by a 360mm AIO if you really must have one. The 12900K, 13900K and 14900K are all as bad as each other in terms of heat and power consumption.

The rest of the system will work fine together but is rather extravagant and you could save money in a few places. You could go for a 14700K, cheaper motherboard, 6000 MHz RAM and an Arctic Freezer 360 AIO and not notice any drops in performance or quality for a lot less cash.

If you don't care about getting the best bang for your buck then ignore all of that :D
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I don't really NEED a 14900K. It was more a case of I have the money to blow on some of the best parts and obviously the excitement is overwhelming :cry: And even though like I said I do have 3k to blow. My better side is always screaming at me to save, save ,save. And of course I want to stay sensible and not want to battle with something that is going to be a pain to deal with over time. I'm used to systems that I basically put everything together and it's 99% forget about.

The one thing I did stumble across in regards to some sort of resolve in the motherboard Bios settings about setting cooler to "Boxed" instead of "Liquid". As there is a bug in the Liquid setting. But not sure at this point which boards have this setting.

In regards to the motherboard. I like Asus and wanted something that would be "Future proof" if there is such a thing these days with how technology moves on so fast.
Memory, Yes I was considering just dropping down to 6400MHz anyway as this seems to be mentioned to be a nice sweet spot. Even if I have to run it at 6000MHz, that would be fine. As the way I look at it, future Bios updates may allow better XMP settings for faster memory etc.
The reason I wanted to go for the Corsair cooler is I have a Corsair ICUE Commander Core XT controller that does a good job of controlling my existing fans/pump RGB etc. Just seems a shame to not use to control a new Corsair Pump. Plus I like the Corsair gear as I have only good experiences with it.

Thanks for your reply btw ;)
 
I would personally go along the route of waiting out for the new 40x0 super cards. See from reviews how much your 9700k might throttle the card. At 1440p I'd wager there will be a little loss, but not much. Plus then, you've got all the nice 4000 series RTX frame gen tech to use.

Is your 9700K OC'd? If not, get a nice cooler and OC the t1ts out of it and go from there? Just what I would do and, in fact, it is what I'm doing but with an 8700k at 4.8Ghz :)
 
Digit said:
Gaming (Including VR)
Current res 2560x1440p.
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Yes Overclock it or if you set on an upgrade the 14600k is a great for gaming.

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Digit said:
I don't really NEED a 14900K. It was more a case of I have the money to blow on some of the best parts and obviously the excitement is overwhelming :cry: And even though like I said I do have 3k to blow. My better side is always screaming at me to save, save ,save. And of course I want to stay sensible and not want to battle with something that is going to be a pain to deal with over time. I'm used to systems that I basically put everything together and it's 99% forget about.

The one thing I did stumble across in regards to some sort of resolve in the motherboard Bios settings about setting cooler to "Boxed" instead of "Liquid". As there is a bug in the Liquid setting. But not sure at this point which boards have this setting.

In regards to the motherboard. I like Asus and wanted something that would be "Future proof" if there is such a thing these days with how technology moves on so fast.
Memory, Yes I was considering just dropping down to 6400MHz anyway as this seems to be mentioned to be a nice sweet spot. Even if I have to run it at 6000MHz, that would be fine. As the way I look at it, future Bios updates may allow better XMP settings for faster memory etc.
The reason I wanted to go for the Corsair cooler is I have a Corsair ICUE Commander Core XT controller that does a good job of controlling my existing fans/pump RGB etc. Just seems a shame to not use to control a new Corsair Pump. Plus I like the Corsair gear as I have only good experiences with it.

Thanks for your reply btw ;)
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I mean, I'd say don't let the excitement of having a 14900K be the reason you get one. You won't be able to tell the difference in use and the novelty of 'having the best' will soon wear off. As for the board, there's no such thing as future-proof. If you need all of the features the Asus offers and you like their boards then go for it, but they're no better than any of the other brands. The MSI Tomahawk Z790 is a solid option for a fair bit less money.

The other thing to consider with the RAM is that you might struggle to get it running stable at those speeds. I've seen a number of people say they've struggled to get 7200 MHz RAM running at more than 6400-6600 MHz. The difference in performance between 6000 and 7200 is barely 2-3% at 1080p so if you like setting it up and forgetting about it I agree that 6400 MHz would be a better choice.

Fair enough on the cooler. There's no wrong choice there so if you're happy to pay the extra for the convenience of having it all synced up with your other fans then go for it. I've heard no complaints about the Corsair AIOs.

I have no idea on the BIOS stuff. I've never noticed anything like that in the BIOS of my board (an Asus B760i) and never had any problems with my 240mm AIO cooling a 12700K in a very small ITX case.
 
Amraam said:
I would personally go along the route of waiting out for the new 40x0 super cards. See from reviews how much your 9700k might throttle the card. At 1440p I'd wager there will be a little loss, but not much. Plus then, you've got all the nice 4000 series RTX frame gen tech to use.

Is your 9700K OC'd? If not, get a nice cooler and OC the t1ts out of it and go from there? Just what I would do and, in fact, it is what I'm doing but with an 8700k at 4.8Ghz :)
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Already pointed out that I was waiting on the Super cards to be released :)

And no, my 9700K is not OC'd. And as I also put in my original post that this is running under a Corsair H100x cooler.
But what isn't clear in my first post is that the 3k I have to blow is part of an inheritance that is a small amount of the total and is the whole point of this splurge. But as also mentioned, if the top CPU's are a pain in the rear to keep cool. I am willing to drop to something as good, but easier to manage.
 
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Amraam said:
Understood dude, just putting in my thoughts :)
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Hey, no problem. I appreciate your input ;)
The thing is I have worked with PC's since the early 90's. I come here for the knowledge of other's as none of us are all knowing. And at my age it's even harder to wrap my head around all the newer tech and what is needed.
I'm just after something that is high spec, but without the headache of having to trouble shoot constantly. Which is the main reason I ask for opinions.

And obviously I have a bit of time to get all of these components sorted while I wait for the RTX4080S to be released (And then probably scramble to get one before they are nabbed by scalpers etc)
 
So, I have decided I am going with a 14700k CPU and a Asus ROG Strix Z790-F Motherboard. And some Corsair DDR5 6400MHz memory. That is on the boards QVL. (I know overpriced motherboard, but I want one with the Flashback feature)
Does anyone run this combination and if so, experience?
 
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Digit said:
So, I have decided I am going with a 14700k CPU and a Asus ROG Strix Z790-F Motherboard. And some Corsair DDR5 6400MHz memory. That is on the boards QVL. (I know overpriced motherboard, but I want one with the Flashback feature)
Does anyone run this combination and if so, experience?
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That was precisely the spec I too was looking at dude; either the -F or the -H, can't recall. I know I considered both. I've only canned my upgrade because of the 4000 Super release, and I can't afford to do a whole new build, so it was CPU or GPU for me.
 
Must it be an Intel CPU? If it's mainly for the gaming the the 7800X3D is surely the king. It's substantially cheaper, easier to cool, and WAY more efficient as well.

I mean, I know you've said your "just prefer Intel", but why? What about them do you prefer?
 
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Havana_UK said:
Must it be an Intel CPU? If it's mainly for the gaming the the 7800X3D is surely the king. It's substantially cheaper, easier to cool, and WAY more efficient as well.

I mean, I know you've said your "just prefer Intel", but why? What about them do you prefer?
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Yep. Has to be an Intel. Why I prefer them? I just do. It's like certain people prefer a certain brand of car etc. I have nothing against AMD. It's just my personal preference :)
I work purely with Intel in my workplace and have personally used them for many years. Never really had any issues and I know how they work when it comes to tweaking.

A friend has recently gone from years of Intel to AMD. And he said it was a seamless transition. But obviously his main reason was cost as he was buying a complete whole system. I'm just getting parts. If I was having to get a complete system I may well of considered AMD.
 
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@Digit, look you state it is a preference and would be willing to to consider AMD if you were getting a full system which you basically are as CPU/MB/RAM/GPU are the heart of the system. A preference should not be absolute and seeing as you have stated a willingness to consider it along with the ability to upgrade just a CPU over at least another two generations vs Intel having the power/cooling issues besides being EOL I would give it a long, hard thought. Otherwise, the 14700K and Strix are nice nits of kit
 
Agreed - I could understand the car analogy along the lines of a BMW just has better build quality and nicer steering. But a CPU that is just crunching binary not sure why you wouldnt make the jump at this point give the whole core components are being replaced. Dont rule it out is all I am saying!
 
Seriously look at Soc LGA4677. Everything else Intel offers is disappointing and risks breaking the illusion. Big cores>8 on this platform. Zero little cores to fool around with.
 
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