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Upgrade Yes Or No ?

H@mmer

H@mmer

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Hi I've a 6800 GT running at Ultra speeds on my Asrock dual board. I'm thinking of upgrading this to:
HIS ATI Radeon X1900 GT ICEQ 3 SILENT Heatpipe 256MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-057-HT)

My reason for this is to sell the 6800 while I can get £80+ for it. That means a new card will only cost £70 ish. All my other cards that I've paid good money for 9800pro, Geforce 2 are just sitting here in old machines.

I'm running a A64x2 4400 on my Asrock board. I game at 1280X1024 on a CRT 19" Iilama with Battlefield 2 and Americas Army. The 6800 plays these very well. I'm more interested in the min constant FPS than the max FPS. With AAO all in game settings are high with 4xAA & 4xAF. BF2 medium settings with 2xAA & 2xAF.
Could I up the AA & AF with the 1900 @ 1280x1024 ? (More for BF2 & BF2142 than AAO, until AAO uses the new UT engine)

Thinking about the 1900 over the 1800 because of the better cooler. I don't want to fork out for DX10 cards at over £300 I'm sick of losing money, I can wait until the 2nd generation cards for DX10 or when a game I play needs DX10.

Ok do you guys think I should upgrade?

Thanks in advance, Hammer.
 
YES!

Your in the same position as me, I have a 6800Ultra running heavily overclocked on an AMD platform at running a native res of 1280x1024. I can run most things maxed out at that res but its starting to struggle these days.

The HIS GT will be a big boost in performance and more the happily service that screen res and for me has the stronger selling point of the HIS cooler and the fact that even when overclocked to past XT speeds it'll keep cooler then the 1800.

So, better cooling, quieter, less power use and can clock to same speeds and narrow the performance defecit (in some cases exceed the 1800XT at stock).

An affordable and intelligent upgrade.
 
HIS ATI Radeon X1900 GT ICEQ 3 SILENT = thumbs down from me.

it may have a good cooler but its not as fast as an X1800XT in everything bar 1 game which is oblivion. clock the XT and the GT and the XT again comes out ahead.

provided youve got good air flow on your case youl never hear the fan on the X1800XT apart from that first 3 seconds when your system boots up.

as for your gaming resolutions, i play bf2 at max with full aa/af on an X1800XT running off a 400 watt psu. all is well.
 
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Remember the 1800XT and 1900GT use the same ram even though the GT is down on clocks from default.

Clock-for-clock these cards perform very similar, theres quite a lot of benchmarks on the net for the 1900GT hitting 1.7+ GHz on the ram and 700MHz+ core with soft volt mods.

So stock for stock the XT is fast sure, but more importantly clock-for-clock the gap is negligable.
 
Both the 1800 & 1900 are quicker than my 6800



Edleake said:
YES!

Your in the same position as me, I have a 6800Ultra running heavily overclocked on an AMD platform at running a native res of 1280x1024. I can run most things maxed out at that res but its starting to struggle these days.

The HIS GT will be a big boost in performance and more the happily service that screen res and for me has the stronger selling point of the HIS cooler and the fact that even when overclocked to past XT speeds it'll keep cooler then the 1800.

So, better cooling, quieter, less power use and can clock to same speeds and narrow the performance defecit (in some cases exceed the 1800XT at stock).

An affordable and intelligent upgrade.
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Noise & coolness seems to make the 1900 the winner.

I'll think I'll order over the weekend for Tuesday delivery.

Thanks for the replies guys. I'll read all posts over the weekend.
 
In exactly the same boat myself, been holding off selling my 6800GT but there 2nd hand prices are begining to drop quite quickly.

was holding off till vista and directX 10 but at this rate my poor old 6800GT will be worth a tenner by then.

just cant decide between the

Connect3D ATI Radeon X1900 XT

or the

Connect3D ATI Radeon X1800 XT 256MB


is the 1st worth the extra cash
 
kidloco said:
Connect3D ATI Radeon X1900 XT

or the

Connect3D ATI Radeon X1800 XT 256MB


is the 1st worth the extra cash
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not exactly the same boat as this threads about the X1900GT v X1800XT. ;)

your answer is simple, if you game at a higher resolution than 1280X1024 and you can afford the extra, then go for the X1900XT. if not, or your on a budget, go for the X1800XT.
 
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Good FPS 93.4 1280x1024 with 4xAA 16AF
 
Now OCUK through this into the mix:
OcUK GeForce 7900 GTO SILENT 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-041-OK) £200 but is it worth an extra £50?
 
locutus12 said:
X1800XT pulls more for the same money.
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True but at those FPS I'm more interested in what the min FPS will be. Maybe able to clock the 1900GT a bit more and it's cooler 'n' quieter.

At £150 or 70ish for the upgrade it seems a good buy.
 
H@mmer said:
True but at those FPS I'm more interested in what the min FPS will be. Maybe able to clock the 1900GT a bit more and it's cooler 'n' quieter.

At £150 or 70ish for the upgrade it seems a good buy.
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That doesnt really stand up im afraid as the X1900GT is clocked quite abit lower than the X1800XT and as such when both cards are overclocked, the X1800XT still wins.

the X1800XT is quiet provided youve got good airflow in your case, ive owned one for 8 months now and only hear the fan during the initial boot of the pc for about 3 seconds.

H@mmer said:
Now OCUK through this into the mix:
OcUK GeForce 7900 GTO SILENT 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-041-OK) £200 but is it worth an extra £50?
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not worth the extra money, the X1800XT pulls about the same frame rates in most games, can do HDR+AA, is more reliable and is cheaper. (its also got better image quality and higher frame rates with anti aliasing.)
 
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Well I'm swinging towards the x1800XT now thanks to locutus 12, about 48hrs to order time I think :D
 
H@mmer said:
Well I'm swinging towards the x1800XT now thanks to locutus 12, about 48hrs to order time I think :D
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good lad, Trust me, its the best bang for buck card @ under £150 including VAT! you wont be dissapointed.
 
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