Upgrading 4790K to 9700K worth it?

[krpao]

Hi, I'm tempted to upgrade my 4790K to a 9700K. I recently got a 2070 Super, and everything is running fairly well, except that in some games I feel that the cpu is holding me back when I'm dropping below 50 fps or experiencing stuttering. A new cpu would have course bring those minimum numbers up in more cpu demanding games. After all mine is more than 5 years old.

I don't really HAVE TO upgrade, but it could always run better and I really feel like building a PC again, it's been many years. And for the past 10 years I've had the same chassi.

I'd have to get a CPU, motherboard, Ram and a case. Everything else is fine. Will also sell my old stuff of course.

It's just a question of whether it's worth it going from a 4790K (running at stock) to a 9700K? I'm mostly gaming, and I'm doing it on 1440P 144hz. Will the 9700 perform the same as a 9700K (stock)?
I mean, I know it really isn't worth it, it's going to cost quite much. It's more for the fun of building a PC and upgrading...
I was just looking for your opinions on this, is it a better choice to wait? Are there new Intel cpus coming soon? Do you think AMD is the better choice and so on?
I didn't really like AMD back when I had it and for some reason since I went to intel I've been sort of anti-AMD.

I sort of have my mind set on purchasing this now, I've got the money to spend and I'm tempted. The reason why I'm making threads like this is for you to maybe talk some sense in me. Maybe It's a complete waste of money etc. I'm known to make rushed decisions and regret it later...

 

[krpao]

Hi,

How much budget? Better consider something like Ryzen 7 3700X instead.

And yes, your i7-4790K is bottlenecking your system.

I was thinking something like 600-800.

Why is it a better choice? It's roughly the same price as the 9700K while the 3900X is a lot more expensive, and they both perform worse in the game tests that I've seen

 

[krpao]

Not worth it in the slightest. I went from a 4790k @4.6Ghz to the 9600k @5Ghz I have now (spec in siggy) and to say the upgrade sidegrade is disappointing would be a understatement. Do what I should have done and go with Ryzen.

I know I am sort of an Intel-fanboy, but the 3700x is like on par with your 9600K in games while the 9700K is better than both. Isn't the 9700K a better choice then?
So the 3700X i better because I have the option to upgrade only the cpu later, without having to buy a new motherboard?

 

[krpao]

Are you struggling now (I mean LowFPS, not the upgrade itch as I used to have).

I have a 4790k @ 5GHZ +Titan Xp and though I may get a little gain I see no point in upgrading right now unless it blows up.

I was an AMD fanboy back when they were solely AMD making great CPU's after winning the 1GHZ race. and only I went to Intel when the Core"Duo came out and took crown back from AMD but even today I would not build an AMD rig (throwing more and cores out is not a gaming solution, added to the compatibility issues you can read in this forum) and will wait it out till Intel get there head in the game as I said I can sit on this hardware for another 2 years easily.

Well yes and no, nowadays I'm not as picky with the graphics quality, If I feel my FPS is not satisfactory I will just lower some settings. It's not fun but I value fps more.
Then I bought a new GPU and now that some games are still held back just a little bit by my CPU, I want to upgrade, but I absolutely don't have to. It's fine with my current setup, so it's mostly just and itch to upgrade. I really just feel like building a new PC in a new case, and while I'm at it, I also want to make changes to my desk etc. Just fun stuff to do, but it's an expensive hobby of course...

 

[krpao]

Actually, it is exactly the gaming solution as more and more games begin using more threads in order to improve the quality of gaming . .

I'm pretty sure this is exactly what was being said back when I had my i5 750, or if it was later not sure. That AMD was cheaper and had more cores, which would definitely be the better option since it would be better in a few years time. And then It really wasn't performing that great after a few years.

 

[krpao]

Bill Gates actually said ""640K ought to be enough for anybody".

Asking a third time what clock speed is your CPU at?

Yes I mentioned it's at stock speed

 

[krpao]

Then overclock it. Mine (4790k) running at 4.7ghz on an AIO and usage while gaming is around 60%. There is plenty of life in it yet so yours should last well too.

Yeah that is probably the best option. Still it's the urge to get new stuff, and have the fun of building in a new case, and then have significantly better minimum fps in games. The difference will probably not be huge in many games while in others it can be more.
Like this example here:

The 9700K and 3700X have a 30 and 40 fps increase for the minimum fps.

Regarding the stuttering in Battlefield V with DX12 I was experiencing, It got better in DX11. Not sure what's causing it, could it be just because I'm using DDR3 and the cpu is older?
Haha I'm just arguing to convince myself that it will be worth it, but It's good to get replies, I'll try to give it more time to think about it. Overclocking will help for sure.

 

[krpao]

Do you know of any good guides for overclocking, I've tried before, reading and testing but have so far always ended up with an instant blue screen when booting, or extreme temperatures. I've also tried the automatic OC both in BIOS and some ASUS software.
It just seems like it's more trouble than it's worth, with hours and hours of testing. Oh the PC crashed after ten hours? Well let's just up the voltage and try for another 24 hours. I feel like I don't have the patience for it.
Only to gain a very small boost. Maybe I'm wrong, I just don't really know where to start as I've given up before.