Upgrading after 10 years

Rexxar

Rexxar

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So having last built a computer in 2010, I need to upgrade to make my computer more capable of running premiere without lag.

Currently running

Intel i5 760 2.8GHz Socket 1156
Asus P7P55D-E P55 Socket 1156
8gb DDR3 @ 1333mhz

The graphics card is fairly new so not worrying about that for now

Can anyone give me some advice on upgrading, I'm once again out of touch with the latest boards and also confused by all the different generations of Intel processors, being labelled as fitting 1151 and then being called coffee lake, kaby lake etc, also 6th 7th generation

Looking to spend about 700, maybe a bit more, power supply is fine.

Any advice appreciated and also can someone explain the boards and processors? I'd like to stick with Intel
 
Does it need to be intel? Any particular reason? AMD are really good these days , high performance, decent power demand and a lot lower cost than a lot of intel parts

You can pick up a Ryzen 2600 and a motherboard for less than £200 or spend a little more and get the latest Ryzen tech
 
No cooler is overkill for a 9900K. Grab the D15S if your case can fit it (160mm height, bit shorter than the D15 and has better compatibility with PCIe top slot and RAM), it performs better than the more expensive U12A.
 
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JBuk said:
Does it need to be intel? Any particular reason? AMD are really good these days , high performance, decent power demand and a lot lower cost than a lot of intel parts

You can pick up a Ryzen 2600 and a motherboard for less than £200 or spend a little more and get the latest Ryzen tech
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It's all i've known to be fair, And read somewhere that Intel is preferred for video editing

Danny75 said:
No cooler is overkill for a 9900K. Grab the D15S if your case can fit it (160mm height, bit shorter than the D15 and has better compatibility with PCIe top slot and RAM), it performs better than the more expensive U12A.
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It's an old HAF 932 , It probably will fit as the case has lots of room
 
Rexxar said:
It's all i've known to be fair, And read somewhere that Intel is preferred for video editing



It's an old HAF 932 , It probably will fit as the case has lots of room
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In days gone by Yeah Intel was the preferred choice but these days bang for buck Amd are very good, better performance for less money in most cases, take a look at the brand new ryzen 3000 range performance charts, excellent results for not a lot of money
 
robfosters said:
I’m pretty sure the 3900 will batter the 9900 for video editing now.
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I've just seen that, 12 cores , little bit more expensive than the i9 9900 , and also comes with it's own cooler. Quite good value that.

Though I've been reading that it's mostly aimed at people gaming using x amount of cores and then streaming using the others, Would something like Premiere be able to make use of that ? At the moment I downscale the 4k to a 720p Proxy and work with that which is a good way of doing things, but time consuming.
 
Rexxar said:
I've just seen that, 12 cores , little bit more expensive than the i9 9900 , and also comes with it's own cooler. Quite good value that.

Though I've been reading that it's mostly aimed at people gaming using x amount of cores and then streaming using the others, Would something like Premiere be able to make use of that ? At the moment I downscale the 4k to a 720p Proxy and work with that which is a good way of doing things, but time consuming.
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When it comes to purely gaming, it’s a very close thing, but when it comes to productivity like video editing, audio production, rendering etc, the 3900 smashes it. For your situation, I’d say it’s definitely the most savvy purchase. Premiere loves cores.
 
robfosters said:
When it comes to purely gaming, it’s a very close thing, but when it comes to productivity like video editing, audio production, rendering etc, the 3900 smashes it. For your situation, I’d say it’s definitely the most savvy purchase. Premiere loves cores.
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Just read a review on Forbes of the 3900 , Seems to outperform the i9 in exporting 4k and in Handbrake also, Anyone want to build me a system on this against the i9 system Kurgen specced me? I don't know if it's my browser or not but the OCUK website is behaving oddly when I try to look at these new boards and processors, brining up accessories when i'm looking for processors, or is their site broken?
 
Rexxar said:
Just read a review on Forbes of the 3900 , Seems to outperform the i9 in exporting 4k and in Handbrake also, Anyone want to build me a system on this against the i9 system Kurgen specced me? I don't know if it's my browser or not but the OCUK website is behaving oddly when I try to look at these new boards and processors, brining up accessories when i'm looking for processors, or is their site broken?
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They did a thing where they grouped all the third gen ryzen stuff together, including other bits that they say go well in the new system.
 
I would not sit on the PSU if it is 10 years old.
Not only can it take out your new systems; newer models are much more efficient.

I'm liking AMD's new X570 Motherboards with PCIe 4.0.
 
silk186 said:
I would not sit on the PSU if it is 10 years old.
Not only can it take out your new systems; newer models are much more efficient.

I'm liking AMD's new X570 Motherboards with PCIe 4.0.
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It's a Coolermaster Silent Pro 1100w Modular PSU , Would I need the same power again or do they use less now? It was probably overkill in the first place!
 
Rexxar said:
It's a Coolermaster Silent Pro 1100w Modular PSU , Would I need the same power again or do they use less now? It was probably overkill in the first place!
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Can't find 1100W Silent Pro, no matter the year.
(only 1100W one is RS-B00-AAAA-A3 UCP)
So more likely it's Silent Pro M 1000W (RS-1000-AMBA-J3) model.

It actually has high quality components.
But design was outdated low end already in 2010...
With everything what comes with it, including abysmal low load efficiency when that oversized, unless you have two high end power hogging graphics cards.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/3856/cooler-master-silent-pro-m1000-1000w/6
Wouldn't wonder if it wastes like 30W just to keep itself powered on.
Because its PSU equivalent to some old US made car with V8 engine.

Just for comparison the most modern PSUs have 5W no load consumption.
And even PSUs made to match 10 year old 80+ Gold efficiency standard would be satisfied with 10W when properly sized.
 
For a PSU you will probably be fine with a quality 650w, it depends on what parts you have.
  • GeForce GTX 1060 - On your average system the card requires you to have a 350~400 Watts power supply unit. link
 
You are in the position that you've lasted so long with such an ancient CPU that any upgrade will be monumental. Depends on how willing you are to part with that cash budget. Even a Ryzen 2600, 16GB DDR4 3000mhz and B450 mobo for £300 would be a titanic upgrade, as in, several times over faster.

If you're happy to spend the 700, 9900K is pretty much the king, though the performance per pound is way behind some of the new Ryzens.

It's a bit like this - are you willing to spend top dollar for a few extra percent performance? Or would you be happy to spend a lot less for 90% of the performance...keeping in mind that even a £300 system overhaul I mentioned above would crush your old system beyond words.
 
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