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Upgrading from 970

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Want something that will tide me over for a while. Hoping to spend around the 600 mark. 980ti seems an obvious choice but is it worth looking at used titans?
 
Sell 970, find new sealed second hand evga 980Ti for ~£400. Warranty for 3 or upgrade to 5 years. Sell 980Ti in a couple of years when Pascal Ti is finally released

Your 980Ti should sell for pretty good money still
 
Sell 970, find new sealed second hand evga 980Ti for ~£400. Warranty for 3 or upgrade to 5 years. Sell 980Ti in a couple of years when Pascal Ti is finally released

Your 980Ti should sell for pretty good money still

not a bad plan. thank you.
 
1080 will probably be cheaper but the same or worse performance than the 980ti. Why would they release a card cheaper than the flagship edition card and better performing?

They will milk everyones balls dry with the mid range cards before releasing Ti editions for enthusiasts
 
1080 will probably be cheaper but the same or worse performance than the 980ti. Why would they release a card cheaper than the flagship edition card and better performing?

They will milk everyones balls dry with the mid range cards before releasing Ti editions for enthusiasts

Obviously the 980ti won't be the flagship card once the 1080 launches - the 1080 will be the new flagship, to be supplanted by the 1080TI at a later date.
 
I dont think the 1080 will be faster than the 980ti. Much like how the 980 was (is) slower than the 780ti in most if not all tests / games.

Time will tell though, maybe the 1080 will be faster than the 980ti
 
1080 will probably be cheaper but the same or worse performance than the 980ti. Why would they release a card cheaper than the flagship edition card and better performing?

They will milk everyones balls dry with the mid range cards before releasing Ti editions for enthusiasts

I dont think the 1080 will be faster than the 980ti. Much like how the 980 was (is) slower than the 780ti in most if not all tests / games.

Time will tell though, maybe the 1080 will be faster than the 980ti

:confused:

For a start the 980 was/is a good 10%+ faster than a 780Ti

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1441?vs=1442

Secondly, it was released with an RRP of about $549 unlike the 780Ti's RRP of $699 so the 980 was faster and cheaper than the 780Ti ( and yes the 780Ti was still selling for ~£500+ a few months before the 980's release so had not dropped in price much before the release of Pascal)

Do you truly think the 980 replacement (1080 or whatever it will be called) will not be faster than a 980Ti?? If that is true, the 1080Ti ( big die pascal) will likely be only 30% or so faster than a 980Ti and that likely wont come till 2017.

That would be the most dissapointing generation ever.
 
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Maybe my 780Ti just overlocked very well then. Heaven 4 1080p the 780Ti would break 70fps and managed around 45fps at 1440p. My 980Ti manages 65fps at 1440p.

Not too bothered about RRP as I always look for the cheapest deal or second hard with warranty, preferably new sealed.

I truely believe that the 1080 (none ti) will not be faster than the top line 980Ti's.

The top end and more expensive ones that are clocked higher and that come late 2016 probably will be.

Anyway, time will tell
 
Maybe my 780Ti just overlocked very well then. Heaven 4 1080p the 780Ti would break 70fps and managed around 45fps at 1440p. My 980Ti manages 65fps at 1440p.

Not too bothered about RRP as I always look for the cheapest deal or second hard with warranty, preferably new sealed.

I truely believe that the 1080 (none ti) will not be faster than the top line 980Ti's.

The top end and more expensive ones that are clocked higher and that come late 2016 probably will be.

Anyway, time will tell

But what do you base this on? Even without a die shrink the top GM104 bested the top GK110 card.

If we look back to the previous die shrink, the top GK104 card (the 680) beat the previous big die fermi card ( 580 GF110) by a very decent margin.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1350?vs=1348

It is actually much more UNLIKELY that the top GP104 card won't beat the GM110, rather than the other way around.
 
But what do you base this on? Even without a die shrink the top GM104 bested the top GK110 card.

If we look back to the previous die shrink, the top GK104 card (the 680) beat the previous big die fermi card ( 580 GF110) by a very decent margin.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1350?vs=1348

It is actually much more UNLIKELY that the top GP104 card won't beat the GM110, rather than the other way around.

I think he's just confused, best to leave him be.

1080 will obviously be the new flagship when it launches, it will obviously have more performance than a 980ti/titan, will obviously be priced £400-500, question is how much faster :D

I'm guessing a solid 30% over a 980ti minimum.
 
I think he's just confused, best to leave him be.

1080 will obviously be the new flagship when it launches, it will obviously have more performance than a 980ti/titan, will obviously be priced £400-500, question is how much faster :D

I'm guessing a solid 30% over a 980ti minimum.

Can you imagine if it wasnt?

It would Nvidia would have only got about ~30% more performance than the previous generation, with a die shrink. That would be abysmal.
 
980Ti would be the only card to get if you're set on upgrading now, but rumours point to a June release date for Pascal, which I don't think is too long away to wait for now. We should hopefully have a much better idea of things after GTC in ~2 weeks time in any case. Like most people, I anticipate the successor to the 980 will be faster than the 980Ti.
 
1080 logically needs to be faster or near as damn it to a poor man's 980ti or what's the point if it. 1070 who cares , it's about the first big boy and it has to be superior or our world will go to hell and apocalyptic eruptions will ensue.
 
I think he's just confused, best to leave him be.

1080 will obviously be the new flagship when it launches, it will obviously have more performance than a 980ti/titan, will obviously be priced £400-500, question is how much faster :D

I'm guessing a solid 30% over a 980ti minimum.

Pascal will also benefit from HBM, the die shrink should allow them to improve performance per watt whilst hopefully being able to fully reap the benefits of DX12. (Nvidia supporting Vulcan would suggest that the Pascal cards would be able to ulilise DX12 and Async compute).
Right now it seems that Maxwells poor performance in dx12 benchmarks is more than a driver issue and is hardware related, as Nvidia have had 6 months to sort out the lack of performance gain.

Definitely better off waiting for Pascal/Polaris which should match the 980ti, and pull away as dx12 takes off, or wait for Big Pascal(1080ti)/Vega at the end of the year which should see a large performance gain over the 980ti.

Although if you find a 980ti at under £400 anytime soon, then you should definitely go for it.
 
Sell 970, find new sealed second hand evga 980Ti for ~£400. Warranty for 3 or upgrade to 5 years. Sell 980Ti in a couple of years when Pascal Ti is finally released

Your 980Ti should sell for pretty good money still

Gotta say, this is pretty solid advice :cool:

Ignore the morons/n00bs who don't know **** ;) :D
 
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