Upgrading from a 2018 Build - Discussion/Help

[Parkinson1NX]

Hi OCuK members,

I find myself now feeling the need to upgrade my current system.

I built the below system late 2018 over the Christmas period and 6 years later feel that it's now time to spend some hard earnt cash.

I mainly play Warzone/Call of Duty titles with the odd RPG game and with some of the upcoming titles such as GTA VI for example and maybe a new Elder Scrolls title (perhaps another decade away, who knows...)

I'd set a budget at £2,500 while trying to use as much of what I currently have as possible.


Case
Corsair Obsidian 500D RGB
CPU
Intel i9 9900k @5.0ghz - 1.3v
CPU Cooler
Corsair H150i Pro
Motherboard
Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Master
Graphics Card
EVGA FTW3 Ultra 2080Ti
Memory
Corsair Vengance PRO RGB 16GB @3200 MHz
Storage
OS Drive - Samsung 970 EVO 250GB M.2
Samsung EVO 1TB SSD [Steam Library]
Power Supply
Corsair RM1000i

I also have a complete set of CableMod braided cables I would like to still use and happy to purchase any extra I'd need such as the GPU power cables that have changed since the 20 series cards.



I have in mind that I could still use the below components.

Case: Corsair Obsidian 500D
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000i
Cooler: Corsair H150i Pro 360mm AiO.

Perhaps all fans as currently working absolutely fine but a lot of cables etc that if I could... I'd get rid of.

I'd like to have a 4080 super GPU, thinking an i7 14700k CPU and would need a Mobo too. I do like the Aorus stuff but if there's better out there for the same cost then this is of course preferable.

Memory 32gb DDR5 and 6000mhz

Would I need a new AiO cooler?

Understandably a 6 year old cooler is a risk and technology has moved on and improved over the last 6 years.

My storage is still good but I'd probable get another nvme for gaming instead of the SSD I use currently and just have the SSD as random storage.

Probably worth noting I have a 240hz 1440p monitor and staying at that resolution is what I'd like to do.

My current system ran Warzone 3.0 at 150-170fps and assuming a 4080 super would breeze that same resolution/settings.

Happy to have a discussion and or be re-educated.

Thanks in advance,

AP.

 

[Tetras]

thinking an i7 14700k CPU and would need a Mobo too.

Are you aware of the 13th-14th gen issues and if you are: satisfied with the 5 year extended warranty?

Personally, if you're a gamer I don't see the point of getting a worse CPU with the issues attached than the AMD equivalent (especially when your budget is big enough for a 9800X3D), but your call.

I also have a complete set of CableMod braided cables I would like to still use and happy to purchase any extra I'd need such as the GPU power cables that have changed since the 20 series cards.

Are these extensions, or customised for your power supply?

Would I need a new AiO cooler?

Which model is it exactly? It looks like the old model will work with AM5, but not 1700, but I'm not certain. In some cases, you can use a retrofit kit available for a different brand if the OEM matches your cooler generation.

https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/4411406331277-Elite-Capellix-How-to-use-your-old-retention-bracket-to-mount-an-Elite-Capellix-cooler-to-an-LGA-1700-socket?_ga=2.18100857.1153752644.1673357726-27130190.1664895857&_gac=1.11791232.1672344231.EAIaIQobChMI9d68uM-f_AIVAzuGCh0uKgE1EAQYASABEgLFkvD_BwE&_gl=1%2A1f8721v%2A_gcl_au%2AOTIwMzM0OTg0LjE3MzE5NzAxOTQ.

 

[Quartz]

I find myself now feeling the need to upgrade my current system.

Now is not the time. Wait for the 9800X3D restock and the Nvidia 5000-series launches in the new year.

My storage is still good but I'd probable get another nvme for gaming instead of the SSD I use currently and just have the SSD as random storage.

More storage is better but you won't notice the difference.

 

[Parkinson1NX]

Are you aware of the 13th-14th gen issues and if you are: satisfied with the 5 year extended warranty?

Personally, if you're a gamer I don't see the point of getting a worse CPU with the issues attached than the AMD equivalent (especially when your budget is big enough for a 9800X3D), but your call.


Are these extensions, or customised for your power supply?


Which model is it exactly? It looks like the old model will work with AM5, but not 1700, but I'm not certain. In some cases, you can use a retrofit kit available for a different brand if the OEM matches your cooler generation.

https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/4411406331277-Elite-Capellix-How-to-use-your-old-retention-bracket-to-mount-an-Elite-Capellix-cooler-to-an-LGA-1700-socket?_ga=2.18100857.1153752644.1673357726-27130190.1664895857&_gac=1.11791232.1672344231.EAIaIQobChMI9d68uM-f_AIVAzuGCh0uKgE1EAQYASABEgLFkvD_BwE&_gl=1%2A1f8721v%2A_gcl_au%2AOTIwMzM0OTg0LjE3MzE5NzAxOTQ.

Thank you for the reply!

• I am certainly not against having an AMD CPU at all, for me personally it is purely best bank for buck.
• I think I would probably go for a new cooler, at least then there is some piece of mind.
• The CableMod braided cable set is for my PSU and not just extensions.

Taking the above into account I am going to assume the querstion I should really be asking is...

1. What CPU? Seems that the AMD 9800X3D is the way to go so...
2. Which motherboard would fit within my budget that will support DDR5.
3. What memory should I go for, assuming 32gb DDR5 at 6000mhz. (Corsair Vengeance? No complaints on that currently)
4. What AiO cooler fits my budget and will do the job extremely well.
5. Going AMD instead of Intel, would my CableMod set work?

Apologies if I am asking too many questions, I find myself starting fresh...


Thanks, AP.

 

[Parkinson1NX]

Now is not the time. Wait for the 9800X3D restock and the Nvidia 5000-series launches in the new year.



More storage is better but you won't notice the difference.

I was kind of thinking now wouldn't be the time due to the 5000 series cards coming to market soon.

Assuming I wait for a GPU, go for a 9800X3D, can use my current case, PSU and fans.

What would you choose with £2,500...

• CPU
• Motherboard
• AiO Cooler
• RAM
• GPU (Any hints on where the 5000 series cards will be priced?).

I guess it's then up to me if I feel I can afford it/or want to get new fans, storage etc.

Appreciate the help by the way!!

 

[ben1987]

Call of duty favours AMD. The big warzone map loves the X3D chips and tbe 7900xtx outperforms the 4080 super in cod.

Cod was developed for consoles initially and the ps5 uses amd gear so the game leans towards amd on PC.

I’d probably go for a 9800x3d and a 7900xtx… well, I did, went for a 7800x3d and a 7900xtx. Comfortably get over 200fps on the recommended settings in game for visuals… can easily get that closer to 300 dialling a couple of settings down slightly.

 

[Tetras]

I think I would probably go for a new cooler, at least then there is some piece of mind.

If you're going AM5 and your cooler supports AM4 already, I think it is usually pretty simple and doesn't require a retrofit kit, but would need to confirm that.

The CableMod braided cable set is for my PSU and not just extensions.

Going AMD instead of Intel, would my CableMod set work?

It doesn't make any difference because the power connectors are the same, assuming you're keeping the same PSU.

If you want to change PSU, Corsair have a cable compatibility chart on their website (there's two versions, one for current PSUs and one for legacy PSUs). If your PSU has the same type of cables as another newer Corsair PSU, then you could swap to said Corsair PSU and keep your PSU-specific cables.

Which motherboard would fit within my budget that will support DDR5.

£2K5 is usually big enough that you can choose any board you want.

My 'cheap' pick for basic builds that don't want much is Gigabyte's B650 Eagle (£135 @ OCUK) and my higher-end pick for builds with bigger budgets is ASRock's Pro RS X870 (~£210).

I'd rarely recommend a board priced higher than that unless you need the premium features like:
- 5 Gb or 10 Gb LAN.
- Multiple PCI-E 5.0 M.2 slots.
- LED post code.
- Programmable LED display panels.
- Onboard DAC/AMP & support for DTS.
- USB ports with power delivery / fast charge.
- Power on/off and clear CMOS buttons onboard.

In terms of the B650 Eagle versus the X870 Pro RS, the main difference is that X870 has PCI-E 5.0 graphics and USB4, whereas the B650 Eagle is PCI-E 4.0 graphics and 0x USB4.

X870E/X670E offers you the ability to have 4 (or in some cases 5) M.2 slots, though you can get B650E boards with 4 that share lanes elsewhere.

There's a roundup for X870 here, the thermal performance is part of why I pick the Pro RS, which I think is competitive because it has a strong VRM and an 8-layer PCB:

What memory should I go for, assuming 32gb DDR5 at 6000mhz. (Corsair Vengeance? No complaints on that currently)

That's fine, would try to get on the QVL if possible and EXPO is preferable, though most AMD boards do support Intel XMP.

What AiO cooler fits my budget and will do the job extremely well.

If you're getting the 9800X3D I wouldn't bother, I'd just get a peerless assassin/phantom spirit. If you're going with a high-end Intel CPU, then I'd still buy the AIO.

CPU is just a price placeholder.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D Twelve Core 5.60GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DS-AM) = £458.99
• 1 x Asrock X870 Pro RS WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASR-03308) = £209.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-02841) = £194.98
• 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4080 Super Trinity Black 16Gb Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ZTC-01496) = £899.99
• 1 x NVIDIA - Indiana Jones and The Great Circle Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03769) = £0.00

• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Black CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02724) = £29.99

Total: £1,801.93 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Intel Core Ultra 7 265K (Arrow Lake) Socket LGA 1851 Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-INT-03111) = £379.99
• 1 x Intel Holiday Bundle - Assassin's Creed Shadows + Ubisoft Plus (SKU: DIG-INT-03637) = £0.00
• 1 x Asrock Z890 LiveMixer WIFI (LGA 1851) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASR-03361) = £220.00
• 1 x TeamGroup Vulcan 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-51200C40 6400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (SKU: MEM-TMG-03146) = £179.99
• 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4080 Super Trinity Black 16Gb Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ZTC-01496) = £899.99
• 1 x NVIDIA - Indiana Jones and The Great Circle Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03769) = £0.00

• 1 x Arctic Liquid Freezer III High Performance CPU Water Cooler - 360mm (SKU: COO-ARC-01991) = £76.99

Total: £1,764.95 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

 

[Parkinson1NX]

If you're going AM5 and your cooler supports AM4 already, I think it is usually pretty simple and doesn't require a retrofit kit, but would need to confirm that.


It doesn't make any difference because the power connectors are the same, assuming you're keeping the same PSU.

If you want to change PSU, Corsair have a cable compatibility chart on their website (there's two versions, one for current PSUs and one for legacy PSUs). If your PSU has the same type of cables as another newer Corsair PSU, then you could swap to said Corsair PSU and keep your PSU-specific cables.


£2K5 is usually big enough that you can choose any board you want.

My 'cheap' pick for basic builds that don't want much is Gigabyte's B650 Eagle (£135 @ OCUK) and my higher-end pick for builds with bigger budgets is ASRock's Pro RS X870 (~£210).

I'd rarely recommend a board priced higher than that unless you need the premium features like:
- 5 Gb or 10 Gb LAN.
- Multiple PCI-E 5.0 M.2 slots.
- LED post code.
- Programmable LED display panels.
- Onboard DAC/AMP & support for DTS.
- USB ports with power delivery / fast charge.
- Power on/off and clear CMOS buttons onboard.

In terms of the B650 Eagle versus the X870 Pro RS, the main difference is that X870 has PCI-E 5.0 graphics and USB4, whereas the B650 Eagle is PCI-E 4.0 graphics and 0x USB4.

X870E/X670E offers you the ability to have 4 (or in some cases 5) M.2 slots, though you can get B650E boards with 4 that share lanes elsewhere.

There's a roundup for X870 here, the thermal performance is part of why I pick the Pro RS, which I think is competitive because it has a strong VRM and an 8-layer PCB:

That's fine, would try to get on the QVL if possible and EXPO is preferable, though most AMD boards do support Intel XMP.


If you're getting the 9800X3D I wouldn't bother, I'd just get a peerless assassin/phantom spirit. If you're going with a high-end Intel CPU, then I'd still buy the AIO.

CPU is just a price placeholder.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D Twelve Core 5.60GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DS-AM) = £458.99
• 1 x Asrock X870 Pro RS WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASR-03308) = £209.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-02841) = £194.98
• 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4080 Super Trinity Black 16Gb Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ZTC-01496) = £899.99
• 1 x NVIDIA - Indiana Jones and The Great Circle Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03769) = £0.00
• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Black CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02724) = £29.99

Total: £1,801.93 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Intel Core Ultra 7 265K (Arrow Lake) Socket LGA 1851 Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-INT-03111) = £379.99
• 1 x Intel Holiday Bundle - Assassin's Creed Shadows + Ubisoft Plus (SKU: DIG-INT-03637) = £0.00
• 1 x Asrock Z890 LiveMixer WIFI (LGA 1851) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASR-03361) = £220.00
• 1 x TeamGroup Vulcan 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-51200C40 6400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (SKU: MEM-TMG-03146) = £179.99
• 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4080 Super Trinity Black 16Gb Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ZTC-01496) = £899.99
• 1 x NVIDIA - Indiana Jones and The Great Circle Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03769) = £0.00
• 1 x Arctic Liquid Freezer III High Performance CPU Water Cooler - 360mm (SKU: COO-ARC-01991) = £76.99

Total: £1,764.95 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

Thanks for your in-depth reply!

I'm going to do a little more research but it is pretty clear with not a lot looking that AMD CPU is currently the way to go for gaming.

9800X3d when back in stock and perhaps wait for the 5000 series card.

I need to figure out whether I can get a CableMod carbon braded cable that fits my PSU and has the new power connection for the more recent Nvidia cards.

Back to being a complete amatuer, unsure whether it's exciting or puts me off.

 

[freddie64]

I need to figure out whether I can get a CableMod carbon braded cable that fits my PSU and has the new power connection for the more recent Nvidia cards.

Think this may be what you want, but double check as the SKU/MPN numbers are slightly different. (on pre-order)

CM-PCSR-16P3-N60KC-5PK-R-1-SS on CableMod site
CM-PCSR-16P3-N60KC-5PK-R on OCUK site

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x CableMod C-Series Pro ModMesh Sleeved 12VHPWR PCI-e Cable for Corsair (Carbon, 16-pin to Triple 8-pin, 600mm) (SKU: CB-019-CM) = £24.95

Total: £28.94 (includes delivery: £3.99)​

 

[Parkinson1NX]

Think this may be what you want, but double check as the SKU/MPN numbers are slightly different. (on pre-order)

CM-PCSR-16P3-N60KC-5PK-R-1-SS on CableMod site
CM-PCSR-16P3-N60KC-5PK-R on OCUK site

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x CableMod C-Series Pro ModMesh Sleeved 12VHPWR PCI-e Cable for Corsair (Carbon, 16-pin to Triple 8-pin, 600mm) (SKU: CB-019-CM) = £24.95

Total: £28.94 (includes delivery: £3.99)​

That looks exactly like what I need, appreciate that. I couldn't find it myself...

Just now needing to wait for the 9800x3d to be in stock again and I think I am set. Possibly just go for the Ryzen 7 7800x3d instead and not have to wait for re-stock but perhaps a little foolish.

The below is what I am thinking. I believe it is all compatible and will fit in my "Corsair Obsidian 500D", using my Corsair RM1000i.

I'll also purchase a couple of 140mm fans and a single 120mm fan for an exhaust fan to match my current set-up.

Keeps it within £2,500 so I am happy with that.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x CORSAIR iCUE LINK TITAN 360 RX RGB Black All In CPU Water Cooler - 360mm (SKU: COO-CRS-02500) = £179.99
• 1 x Gigabyte X870E Aorus Pro (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-03316) = £329.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance RGB EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMH32GX5M2B6000Z30K) (SKU: MY-4DU-CS) = £109.99
• 1 x Asus GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER ProArt OC 16GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ASU-02002) = £959.99
• 1 x NVIDIA - Indiana Jones and The Great Circle Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03769) = £0.00
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.2GHz (SKU PRO-AMD-03517) = £449.99

Total: £2,037.94 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

Any thoughts please?

For a buy now and sort over the weekend... minus the cable...

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x CORSAIR iCUE LINK TITAN 360 RX RGB Black All In CPU Water Cooler - 360mm (SKU: COO-CRS-02500) = £179.99
• 1 x Gigabyte X870E Aorus Pro (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-03316) = £329.99
• 1 x Asus GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER ProArt OC 16GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ASU-02002) = £959.98
• 1 x NVIDIA - Indiana Jones and The Great Circle Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03769) = £0.00
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £428.99
• 1 x CableMod C-Series Pro ModMesh Sleeved 12VHPWR PCI-e Cable for Corsair (Carbon, 16-pin to Triple 8-pin, 600mm) (SKU: CB-019-CM) = £24.95
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance RGB EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMH32GX5M2B6000Z30K) (SKU: MY-4DU-CS) = £109.99

Total: £2,033.89 (includes delivery: £0.00)​