Is it worth getting an 8700k from a 8600k? They go for around £130 but is it worth it? Some games i play require better CPU's and i do suffer with fps lag i'm currently using a 2070 super and 32GB ram so i do think it might be my bottleneck
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Upgrading from a 8600k
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Going from 6c/6t to 6c/12t with a bit higher clock speed for £130? I'm not sure, but if you can sell the 8600k to recuperate the costs, probably.
Is the 8600K overclocked? If not, I'd give that a go, since they often have quite a bit of headroom. I'd rather get a 9900K (8/16) than an 8700K (6/12), since all you're really getting is hyperthreading (and 3MB cache), but the problem is that they're generally way overpriced.
Do some Googling for benchmarks between the chips at the resolution that you play at, you should be able to find out whether it`s worth the upgrade or not.
I have been looking at mine but at 4k there is only around 5fps between mine and the 12700 so it`s not worth it for me.
I have been looking at mine but at 4k there is only around 5fps between mine and the 12700 so it`s not worth it for me.
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If you really must stay with the same board and memory then you might as well spend a little extra and get the best gaming CPU on your socket which is the 9700K and spend a little time and tune your memory which will help to reduce your 'FPS lag' massively.
What games are you currently struggling in?
What games are you currently struggling in?
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You do need to give a bit more information to get a more definitive answer.
1. What resolution is your monitor?
2. What game(s) do you think require a better CPU?
3. What speed is your memory? Also get a rough idea of what your latency is by running the trial version of AIDA64 https://www.techpowerup.com/download/aida64-extreme/ and go to Tools and run the Cache and Memory benchmark.
I thought you might be along with some no nonsense advice.
If you want to just plug and play then I'd suggest to go down this minimal tinkering root with the new shiny Alderlake system. Though if money is tight (maybe due to higher bills etc
) AND ALSO you don't mind spending a bit of time tuning your system then I'd probably inclined to save myself £100 of that £200 and get the 9700K. The drop in CPU might be more straight forward as the new Alderlake might require a total reinstall if you're on Win10 and AL really is better with Win11 (even using a program like Process Lasso on Win10 is not as good as a fresh Win11 for Alderlake in my experience)For a little reference a 12400f scores ~700 in CPU-Z single thread ~5000 Multithread and my 9700K scores ~640 single thread and ~5000 multithread. Though my 9700K has much better latency which in many games equates to frame time, which is what we can perceive as how smooth the game runs. There are a few games that like higher bandwidth as well which is where I suspect the Alderlake system is better.
@Robert896r1 I'm curious as to what are your thoughts as you have extensive knowledge of both platforms and a more knowledgeable gamer than I?
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ADL will have a major advantage over CFL-R. It's not close if games are the main goal. I'm asuming untuned as well on both platforms.
Re use ddr4, get whatever ADL cpu can afford. 12600k would be ideal if you can get one used but 12400f is fine also. Might be worth waiting for RPL to release and pick up a used ADL chip for those who might want to do a drop in upgrade.
Re use ddr4, get whatever ADL cpu can afford. 12600k would be ideal if you can get one used but 12400f is fine also. Might be worth waiting for RPL to release and pick up a used ADL chip for those who might want to do a drop in upgrade.
If you want to find your bottleneck then run afterburner with GPU and CPU usage enabled in the display while playing, you will then find out whether it`s your CPU or GPU holding you back.
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Thanks. What about tuned CFL similar to what you had. I seem to remember your tuned CFL blowing people out of the water in the Fall Out game bench thread?
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The cost upgrade won’t be worth it. I mean he can just delid his chip, replace paste with lm, oc it. Then max out his mem. That’ll be better than drop in upgrades which will be incremental.
But I’d save up. Get something like the Msi z690 pro-a and a 12600k used. Stick to D4 if you have decent mem to reuse (he does) since you’ll be capped around 4100mhz anyway. In this case, saving up is just the better option. Both things used should come in under £400 and the K sku will last way longer due to headroom.
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Can certainly buy this combo under £400 used. The advice above about 12400/ddr5 is head scratching. Maybe too many HuB videos?
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