upgrading motherboard and OEM XP PRO

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If I upgrade will I have to buy a new copy of windows XP Pro (RRP 150€)

Or can I simply call MS and have them allow the change?

My current board is an ASROCK board but since day 1 I've had problems with USBs and now my PSU is shot as well I think down to the board but I'm not sure (sending it back to get checked out.)

I want an new mb and can spend 100€ but can't really afford 250€ :(

I have yet to see MS XP on sale retail anywhere it's difficult to get stock and my current windows set up is perfect at the moment.
 
well i'm not sure on the legalities myself, but I have used the same OEM version of XP Pro in around 8 different builds. Everytime I activate it goes straight to the 'Thank you' page.

I think MS have given up trying to persue the re-activation of XP.
 
If you have "replaced the motherboard because the last one went up in smoke", rather than "I have upgraded the motherboard" - then you should be within the licensing requirements.

So, you're sure you are upgrading, rather than repairing?

You will still need to call MS for activation.
 
His new MB won't be replaced under a warrenty replacement scheme, therefore he won't be licenced and my post above still stands.

Burnsy
 
I probably could get it replaced under the warranty but can i be bothered to wait? No.

It's a strange problem I have with USB they would probably say it's my install but it's not as when i plug anything into the MBs usb port it keeps discoing every 3 seconds off-on-off-on.

not right windows throws a wobbly as well. Also windows asks for me to install the drivers each time I plug in a USB device, I have installed latest MB bios, VIA USB hub drivers etc but still get the messages. So I've given up on this board and will now get a new one suppose i'll have to save up an extra 150€ for a licence :(
 
Interesting how I've never been asked to telephone. I remember maybe two years ago when I did this I had to ring.

Still using the same XP Pro version now. :confused:
 
Hey Butters, you do know that you have just violated the EULA several times and you really have no right of using Windows anymore, unless you uninstall Windows of every single machine apart from the one that you installed Windows on originally. It goes back to the concept of, just because you can physically do something, does not make it right (Legal).

When you bought your copy of Windows (OEM), you should have really been completely aware of the licensing terms of an OEM license, which is; if you have the OEM version of Windows, you can change any system component in your machine apart from the motherboard and you will still be licensed. You may have to re-activate Windows after a hardware change but you will still be allowed to activate and will not be breaking the EULA. Now depending how significant the hardware change is, for example updating the BIOS of your motherboard, you may have to ring Microsoft up yourself because online activation may fail. If you do have to ring them up, just tell them what has happened and they will happily activate your copy of Windows Vista for you. If you change your motherboard for a performance upgrade, then you will have to go out and purchase a new copy of Windows (New License).

There is another, often misconception regarding being activated and being licensed. There is a slight but a very important difference between being activated and being licensed. If you have a copy of Windows OEM and change your motherboard due to a performance upgrade, as said above, you will have to go out and purchase a new copy of Windows. If you do not wish to do this and use your existing copy of Windows with your new motherboard, the only way you will be able activate Windows you already have, is to ring Microsoft up and lie to them to get them to reactivate Windows for you, if they give you a new code, you may now be activated but you are certainly no longer licensed and would have just broken the EULA. This is because, Microsoft gave you a new code because you had lied to them, if you said the truth and told them you changed your motherboard for a performance upgrade, they will tell you to go out and purchase a new copy of Windows. Microsoft give's it's customers a certain amount of trust concerning the licensing terms and if you wish to abuse this, that is up to you.

Now I am not sure how you have been able to reactivate Windows over the internet so many times that you have done but effectively, it's the same as ringing Microsoft up and lying to them. The point really being is, you shouldn't even be trying this in the first place.

but I have used the same OEM version of XP Pro in around 8 different builds.

In my opinion, that really is taking the mick and I can't actually believe you have used the same license on so many machines. :(

If you wish to dispute anything I have said Butters or anyone else for that matter, that's fair enough but please don't turn this into a personal insults thread. I am quite a morally person myself and I just cant stand or as a matter of fact sit :p here and say nothing. :)
 
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No, thats fair enough. I'm not saying I've got 8 PCs all running the same version.

What I am saying is that I bought XP Pro, and it went on a desktop maching back in 2002. That blew up, so it went on another build (probably same Hard Drive in all fairness).

Now its on a laptop, and only on a laptop.
 
You mean MS is requesting evidence that the MB has been replaced under a warranty replacement scheme?

I think you misunderstand Burnsy's post.

He's not saying that they won't Activate it. Just that even if they do, the OP won't be licenced anymore.
 
jas72, I'll try to give you a simple answer to your question.

If you are replacing your motherboard (except under RMA) then you need to buy a new OEM licence, otherwise you're in breach of the OEM EULA.

If you ignore this and phone up Microsoft anyway, they MAY provide you with an Activation code - however, the above point still applies and you are no longer licenced correctly.

Some people take the point of view that so long as Microsoft are happy to Activate, then there is no problem. Others would point out that an Activation code given out in error means that your copy of windows is now as invalid as a copy you may have downloaded from the internet.
 
ok, so what if the warrenty has expired on the blown mobo? Its perfectly reasonable to replace it with a different model, EULA or not.

This always has been a grey area, but the main point is the reason for changing the motherbaord must be for repair and not upgrade purposes.

Burnsy
 
Which is linked to real life situations! :D

Hehe, I think most people would agree that its unreasonable to buy a new windows every time they upgrade, sorry, replace a damaged and out of warranty motherboard.
Its akin to having to renew your driving licence if you buy a new car..a bit silly.

I remain quite happily in my grey area :p
 
Hehe, I think most people would agree that its unreasonable to buy a new windows every time they upgrade, sorry, replace a damaged and out of warranty motherboard.
Its akin to having to renew your driving licence if you buy a new car..a bit silly.

I remain quite happily in my grey area :p

I wouldn't say it was unreasonable, there is a retail licence you know ;)

Burnsy
 
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