Upgrading my PC

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Hi,
I am thinking of upgrading PC. I have

i5 6600k
GTX1070
32GB 3200Mhz RAM

All other bits will be carryover.

I do a lot of VR gaming and normal gaming. Star Wars Fallen order is stuttering with cpu @ 100%. And VR game specs are starting to supercede my GPU / CPU.

Anyone have any advise on upgrades?
 
For GPU upgrade would wait later into year to have next-gen cards out.
Now is literally historically bad time to buy expensive card, courtesy of NVidia's bottomless greed.

But 4 core/4 thread CPU simply doesn't have the "muscle/workers" for demanding games causing that sharp stutter/FPS drops.
(and likely almost halts when Wintoys starts some background task)
8c/16t Ryzen 3700X would give twice the total CPU power and upgrade path to improved architecture and 12 core CPUs.

What PSU you have?
If some average model would upgrade also that.
 
Hi
Sorry to butt in on this post, I’ve just signed up as I’m also after some advice. I have little experience in pc knowledge, but I would like to know if it is worth trying to up grade my pc or or build a new one,

I currently have a:
hp envy h8-1485ea
Intel core i7-3770 @3.40ghz
16 gb ram
GeForce gr640
I’m not sure what model mother board I have most likely a generic hp one

I really hope someone can shed some
Light on this

kind regards

jag
 
hp envy h8-1485ea
Market brand PCs are built from anti-upgradability.
There's simply no way to upgrade that to any kind modern higher end parts.
Or even five years old outdated high end parts, because of bad case cooling and cheap PSUs.

Only thing reusable there is likely HDD.
 
Thank you for your reply, I think I knew that would be the case, I don’t really want to break the bank on building the pc as all I want to do is play farming simulator 2019 and euro truck sim 2 think my budget would be around £500
 
Hi,
Thanks for response.

My budget for a MB, GPU, and CPU is about £1300 max. But would prefer around £1000. Later on in a year's time say I would be looking to upgrade my Rift.

Anyone got any ideas of when the next gen CPU's and GPU's come out?

My PSU is a 750w corsair.
 
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My budget for a MB, GPU, and CPU is about £1300 max. But would prefer around £1000. Later on in a year's time say I would be looking to upgrade my Rift.

Anyone got any ideas of when the next gen CPU's and GPU's come out?

My PSU is a 750w corsair.
No sense to buy new graphics card now with new cards coming in time from summer to fall.
Even Intel should be donig their entry into discrete graphics card and would certainly have resources to some surprises.
GTX 1070 should be competent enough untill that.

That fall is also when AMD likely releases Zen3.

Corsair has stuck their brand sticker into every kind PSUs all the way down to standard low end PSUs.
So what's the precise model name/number?
VS is very low end serie and CX another lower end serie with outdated efficiencies etc.
 
My Corsair PSU is TX750

Was looking at a i7 9700k with MB. Seems to be a good processor from benchmarks that will serve me well for some.
 
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Was looking at a i7 9700k with MB. Seems to be a good processor from benchmarks that will serve me well for some.
It will only serve to bloat Intel's profit margins from selling bad performance per price yester-yesteryear's product on dead end platform.
No sense in brand overpriced Intels which aren't next-gen game proof and have who knows how many more vulnerabilities to patch in rebranded 2015's 6th gen Skylake architecture.
Next-gen consoles will come with clock speed capped for energy effiency variant of 8 core/16 thread 3700X.
That's 8 threads more than in that 9700K.

£100+ cheaper Ryzen 3700X is better for future with those extra threads.
At £400 level you should be looking toward 12 cores/24 threads for real future proofness with plenty of cores for any game regardless of background tasks.
Unless wanting to use update path with BIOS update compatible improved architecture Zen3 CPUs.
Which should be in nice discount in winter 21-22.
 
Ok yes. I have seen more games recommending processors with hyperthreading or equivalent. Perhaps in future games will start using these threads as the norm.

Where did you get info for next gen consoles? Would like to take a look as most games are ports.
 
Assassin's Creed Odyssey should be good example of next-gen game core utilization capabilities:
https://youtu.be/vVjdhXAdKE0?t=1m50s


Hardware configuration of both consoles was announced officially in last month.
They have seven of those eight cores dedicated exclusively for running games.
With all the out of control bloatware PC can't claim same.
And then some people even install additional PC bogging down RGB crapwares...

In GPU new Xbox's basically has 30% more processing units than 5700 XT.
So even with only small processing efficiency improvements that would be very strong GPU.
And architecture is no doubt improved in all areas.
RDNA 2 was likely AMD's long term GPU goal with development priority over Navi etc.
Just like Zen uarch development for getting CPUs back on track limited resources available for graphics department.

PS5's GPU doesn't have as many processing units, but goes for higher clocks.


Really the weakest spot of next-gen consoles will be small memory increase.
PS4 had 16 times the memory of PS3, but now its only doubled to 16GB.
Which is probably the amount of VRAM in next top graphics cards with like 10-12GB becoming new high end graphics card norm inside year or so.
Then add separate RAM of PC...

Instead consoles seem to aim for using special techniques for streaming some data from SSD just before need instead of keeping all assets in memory.
Very tight integration and optimizing of fixed hardware makes such "band aids" easier.
PC doesn't have such easy short cuts.
Also drive space consumption is no doubt going to jump because to be "on the fly" streamable game's assets can't be compressed much.
Similarly super fast start up time of game itself would need game's code to be stored in kind of "hibernation file" form instead of usual binary code.
 
Ryzen 7 3700x and Asus TUF Gaming Plus motherboard ordered.

Might get delivered this century but will see.

What temps should I expect for a 3700x cooled by a corsair h45 water cooler?
 
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