Upgrading to Windows 11

dlockers · 19 Oct 2024 at 18:56

Hi folks,

Dawned on me the other day I am still using Win 10. My machine is incompatible though. Is there anything I can do to ignore this shenanigans?

Edit: wtfbbq my CPU was actually ordered/received 09/05/2015. Dayum this thing has done me well!

Tetras · 19 Oct 2024 at 21:18

dlockers said:
Is there anything I can do to ignore this shenanigans?

By ignore, do you mean disable the popups, or upgrade/install Windows 11?

throwaway4372 · 19 Oct 2024 at 21:28

You can use Windows 10 for another year, and maybe you want a new pc anyway, so that'd be end of story.

It is possible to install Windows 11 on unsupported cpus, or at least it was when I did it, if you want to go down that route the first step is to run WhyNotWin11 to make sure you're aware of all potential issues. (If you post a screenshot of your results I can help further)

GitHub - rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11: Detection Script to help identify why your PC is not Windows 11 Release Ready. Now Supporting Update Checks!

Detection Script to help identify why your PC is not Windows 11 Release Ready. Now Supporting Update Checks! - rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

github.com

dlockers · 19 Oct 2024 at 21:46

Tetras said:
By ignore, do you mean disable the popups, or upgrade/install Windows 11?

To install

throwaway4372 said:
You can use Windows 10 for another year, and maybe you want a new pc anyway, so that'd be end of story.

It is possible to install Windows 11 on unsupported cpus, or at least it was when I did it, if you want to go down that route the first step is to run WhyNotWin11 to make sure you're aware of all potential issues. (If you post a screenshot of your results I can help further)

GitHub - rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11: Detection Script to help identify why your PC is not Windows 11 Release Ready. Now Supporting Update Checks!

Detection Script to help identify why your PC is not Windows 11 Release Ready. Now Supporting Update Checks! - rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

github.com

Top man will take a look thank you. I posted not that long ago about upgrading and despite 9 years of use we couldn't find a good reason to...

ED209 · 19 Oct 2024 at 22:04

Use Rufus to burn the ISO to USB and it will give you the option to remove the Windows 11 requirements. Just need to download the Windows 11 ISO from Microsoft.

darael · 19 Oct 2024 at 23:58

All you need is the below registry key to copy to the USB stick you're installing Windows 11 from. From the installer, hit Shift + F10, type in D:\bypass.reg (change path as required) and accept the warnings.

Bypass.reg:

Code:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\LabConfig]
"BypassCPUCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassRAMCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassSecureBootCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassStorageCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassTPMCheck"=dword:00000001

Lartyconshayo · 20 Oct 2024 at 08:15

Does it bypass MS forcing you to have an MS account? Rufus will give you that option

dlockers · 20 Oct 2024 at 13:59

Had a poorly child through the night so haven't started yet. I assume I'll need to create an iso with Rufus and act as if I'm doing a fresh install, but it'll offer an upgrade?

hornetstinger · 20 Oct 2024 at 14:02

You might be able to install W11. I couldn't on a AMD 610e AM3 nor a Xeon 5760. But I'm pretty sure I did on a old pentium dual core laptop. huh.

You have to select whether to use MBR or GPT partition system on the stick. On mine I used MBR.

throwaway4372 · 20 Oct 2024 at 14:03

dlockers said:
Had a poorly child through the night so haven't started yet. I assume I'll need to create an iso with Rufus and act as if I'm doing a fresh install, but it'll offer an upgrade?

do the thing I said, that will inform what to do next, don't just rush straight into an install

but no, if you end up installing it'll be a clean install

mattyfez · 20 Oct 2024 at 16:04

Do you really need windows? Linux mint or ubuntu have come on leaps and bounds and are super easy to use and just 'work'...

You can get Steam on linux aswell, so it's even good for games...most of the time

You can boot them from USB to give them a test drive...

dlockers · 20 Oct 2024 at 16:35

throwaway4372 said:
do the thing I said, that will inform what to do next, don't just rush straight into an install

but no, if you end up installing it'll be a clean install

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mattyfez said:
Do you really need windows? Linux mint or ubuntu have come on leaps and bounds and are super easy to use and just 'work'...

You can get Steam on linux aswell, so it's even good for games...most of the time

You can boot them from USB to give them a test drive...

Too dependant on Windows software still. I know there are alternatives etc etc but it isn't a now thing.

hornetstinger · 20 Oct 2024 at 16:40

I installed WIndows 11 on a PC without a TPM.

just saying.

mattyfez · 20 Oct 2024 at 16:40

dlockers said:
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Too dependant on Windows software still. I know there are alternatives etc etc but it isn't a now thing.

That maybe so, but what software? google sheets is all online, ms office online too, or just use libre office if you want something installed...so many things are basically just web apps these days... and all the major software vendors have native linux apps...

dlockers · 20 Oct 2024 at 16:58

So I'm good to go sans tpm but on haswell?

marc2003 · 20 Oct 2024 at 17:03

dlockers said:
So I'm good to go sans tpm but on haswell?

Yes, I even posted a screenshot of mine the other day (i5 as opposed to your i7)

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/disabling-csm-support.18993337/#post-37398330

throwaway4372 · 20 Oct 2024 at 17:46

dlockers said:

Nice, that confirms there should be no surprises, so you can go ahead and install Windows 11. Remember it's a clean install so backup first.

It's worth noting that the major Windows 11 updates (23H2, 24H2) haven't been installing automatically when Windows 11 is installed on an unsupported cpu, but it can be done manually. After the install check which update it installed.

The general process is to download the Windows 11 iso, then use Rufus to use the iso to create an installation usb drive, checking the option to bypass tpm/cpu requirement. Then boot off the usb and install Windows as normal.

Here are some links I bookmarked when I went through this process, I remember the instructions were not perfect, Rufus changed since the screenshots, I had to download the iso manually rather than getting Rufus to do it, so don't worry if reality doesn't exactly match the instructions:

Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way

Rufus: Create bootable USB drives the easy way

rufus.ie

How to create bootable USB drive for Windows 11 with Rufus - Pureinfotech

Rufus lets you create a bootable Windows 11 USB for supported and unsupported hardware. Also, it offers the option to download the ISO file.

pureinfotech.com

Download Windows 11

zaniro · 21 Oct 2024 at 12:54

I just upgraded from an i7 6700k for this same issue given end of support for Windows 10 in October 2025. There are methods to bypass it but I heard that Windows complications could arise with updates further down the line for these CPUs.

413x · 22 Oct 2024 at 22:20

Came here for same.

I have 2 machines that would be scrap otherwise. I'll carry on with win 10 (as I do not really like win 11)until the very end.

But good to see there are options.

Tetras · 22 Oct 2024 at 22:51

zaniro said:
There are methods to bypass it but I heard that Windows complications could arise with updates further down the line for these CPUs.

It shouldn't be a problem. 7th gen is basically the same as 8th-10th and 6th gen just needs TPM and secure boot enabled, which can be sorted. Missing MBEC does slow it down compared to 7th gen (if the security features are enabled).