UPVC Window question

DXP55

DXP55

DXP55

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Are all windows equal - in other words are they made to a Gov standard - or is there a minimum standard and you get what you pay for - I only ask now because now cold weather is coming I get a 30mm line of condensation on bottom inside of some window first thing in morning. - At my age spending mega buck's on the windows was a no no - have better things to spend it on - So we had 4 quotes - two came in at around £2.5k and two at around £5k - This was for three bed bungalow and all windows were done -- The chap said they came argon filled and sun reflective - The chap who put new little porch on back door said they were basic. - That doesn't surprise me as I thought price was good and I do subscribe to view you get what you pay for.


Dave
 
Firestar_3x said:
Short answer, no, not all windows are equal, the quality of the frames, the security and the gap between each bit of glass can be different to name but a few things.
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100% spot on.

REHAU is one firm who make good windows, I had them in my last hovel, can't remember which frame I had, REHAU S706 Window Profile or the REHAU Edge Window Profile, both can take up to a 32mm double glazing unit, & up to a 42mm triple glazing unit, using a special bead.
 
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I've got triple glazed composite windows that are 3 x the price of plastic and I still get a line of condensation in the morning, it has nothing to do with the window more the moisture content in the air and it condensating somewhere cold which is always the window.

Sort out your ventilation and the condensation will sort it's self out.
 
Just as I thought - only good thing is they are 10 times better than 20 yr old plastic one's that were in.

Those Karcher WV 50/60's are ideal for removing that line of condensation. - best little tool I have bought for long time.

Dave
 
The line of condensation is inevitable I think. I have A rated units in my windows, with Low E glass, warm edge spacer and argon filled. Still get a little bit of condensation in the winter, especially in the morning when the heating has been off.

Some plastic frames are better than others, but not a huge difference really. Cheaper ones will be divided into 3 chambers inside the profile, whereas the more expensive frames have 5 or more chambers inside.
 
One thing to note with new energy efficient windows is you get condensation build up on the outside of the glass. Very little heat escapes through the glass so the dew build up on a cold morning will take a while to clear. Window salesmen never mention this for some reason.
 
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Ahh.

Wondered why next doors bedroom windows did that - That's confirmed mine are cheapest of cheap. -I think I would prefer condensation on outside than inside

It has been 1c first thing this morning and bedroom windows had a good 50mm along bottom but rest of house just a 10mm line.

Dave
 
DXP55 said:
Ahh.

Wondered why next doors bedroom windows did that - That's confirmed mine are cheapest of cheap. -I think I would prefer condensation on outside than inside

It has been 1c first thing this morning and bedroom windows had a good 50mm along bottom but rest of house just a 10mm line.

Dave
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Do the spacer bars look like this: lYhmbLV.jpg

Or are they the old aluminium type?
 
Another thing with modern windows is the air gap in the double glazed unit is allot thicker and looks more "chunky". Have your quotes specified the type of spacer bar?
A very good cost effective window manufacturer is Listers. There Elitis range is really good. Also think about having a plain profile outside (easier to clean) and a patterned profile internally (looks better). Thats what I did.
 
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