utorrent encryption

toString · 1 May 2007 at 09:47

What is the use of this feature? I assume it's for networks that block torrent packets? Is there a downside if I enable it, will this mean I won't be able to download as fast or get as many in/outcoming connections?

I'm on BT and I don't think they do anything with torrent packets, but just wondering if it's worth enabling in general?

MarcLister · 1 May 2007 at 10:01

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_protocol_encryption

I'm also on BT (at home) but I have encryption enabled. I used to have it forced but having spoken to some people I've come to the conclusion that enabled is better.

Jaffa_Cake · 1 May 2007 at 10:08

There are several Utorrent tweaking guides and they all say to leave it turned off. Im not certain what it does though :cool:

lol

Elston · 1 May 2007 at 11:25

I think it is for those ISP's that don't like you using peer-to-peer applications. If they use any form of 'traffic shaping' against you, then turning encryption on should allow you to by-pass these methods. If the data is encrypted then the shaping software can't read the information to see what type of data it is (bit-torrent uses the character 19 at the beginning of all its data).

Or at least thats what i thought it did.

marc2003 · 1 May 2007 at 11:38

Elston said:
I think it is for those ISP's that don't like you using peer-to-peer applications. If they use any form of 'traffic shaping' against you, then turning encryption on should allow you to by-pass these methods. If the data is encrypted then the shaping software can't read the information to see what type of data it is (bit-torrent uses the character 19 at the beginning of all its data).

Or at least thats what i thought it did.

but most isps have cottoned on to that and will also throttle encrypted traffic. just because they don't know know what it is won't stop them from slowing it down...

Sirrel Squirrel · 1 May 2007 at 11:53

I've noticed on my BT connection that at certain times I get a maximum of 13kb/s from torrents, usually between about 5pm and 11pm but at any other time and weekends I get close to 700kb/s. This is with encryption turned on too, so no idea what's going on.

MarcLister · 1 May 2007 at 11:58

Sirrel Squirrel said:
I've noticed on my BT connection that at certain times I get a maximum of 13kb/s from torrents, usually between about 5pm and 11pm but at any other time and weekends I get close to 700kb/s. This is with encryption turned on too, so no idea what's going on.

Hmm strange. That is off-peak times so they'd be less likely to throttle torrent packets or encrypted packets then.

Could be a case of...

marc2003 said:
but most isps have cottoned on to that and will also throttle encrypted traffic. just because they don't know know what it is won't stop them from slowing it down...

...though.

Elston · 1 May 2007 at 12:34

marc2003 said:
but most isps have cottoned on to that and will also throttle encrypted traffic. just because they don't know know what it is won't stop them from slowing it down...

Just done a little research and 'Net Enforcer' was the first program to detect encrypted bit-torrent data and throttle it. Good job my ISP does not use any of these methods.

marc2003 · 1 May 2007 at 12:39

Elston said:
Just done a little research and 'Net Enforcer' was the first program to detect encrypted bit-torrent data and throttle it. Good job my ISP does not use any of these methods.

lucky you.

bt uses it (or something similar) to throttle my torrents to 12kb/s at peak times. suffice to say i'm not a happy bunny.

toxic · 1 May 2007 at 12:42

marc2003 said:
lucky you.

bt uses it (or something similar) to throttle my torrents to 12kb/s at peak times. suffice to say i'm not a happy bunny.

mee too..so you arent the only one. Just downloaded some stuff at 800kb/s....after 5pm I will probably get a measly 10-20kb/s. It kinda sucks!

MarcLister · 1 May 2007 at 12:43

marc2003 said:
lucky you.

bt uses it (or something similar) to throttle my torrents to 12kb/s at peak times. suffice to say i'm not a happy bunny.

I can honestly say I've not had that, as far as I am aware. I will test it when I get home in a few weeks. Perhaps you have some settings to tweak. Are you using uTorrent?

marc2003 · 1 May 2007 at 12:46

this throttling doesn't appear to be across the board with bt just yet but that's 3 people in this thread alone (at peak times only). and i know how to get the best out of my connection thanks.

and i don't use utorrent anymore as i find i keep getting banned on some trackers.

Sirrel Squirrel · 4 May 2007 at 16:42

Good to know I'm not the only when then lol, thought I was doing something wrong, that really sucks

Energize · 4 May 2007 at 21:47

Wouldn't something like vpn shape traffic differently?

Bony Maloney · 4 May 2007 at 22:12

I'm on BT with Utorrent and it is throttled at certain times.

Dr_Evil · 8 May 2007 at 09:33

When I migrated to Pipex in June '06 i noticed my transfer rates falling to under 20kbps in the week. I then enabled encryption in Azeurus and that worked fine, i had full speed transfer rates again. Until December last year, after which even with encryption on in uTorrnet my transfer speed doesn't rise above 20kbps during the week.

I guess the ISP's have caught on to this 'encryption' feature in Azeurus and uTorrent, hopefully the developers come back with a new way of "dodging" the packet inspection and bandwidth throttling mechanisms of the ISP's...

.walls · 8 May 2007 at 11:14

Dr_Evil said:
When I migrated to Pipex in June '06 i noticed my transfer rates falling to under 20kbps in the week. I then enabled encryption in Azeurus and that worked fine, i had full speed transfer rates again. Until December last year, after which even with encryption on in uTorrnet my transfer speed doesn't rise above 20kbps during the week.

I guess the ISP's have caught on to this 'encryption' feature in Azeurus and uTorrent, hopefully the developers come back with a new way of "dodging" the packet inspection and bandwidth throttling mechanisms of the ISP's...

Pipex here as well, with exactly the same story - even though I have one of their "unlimited" connections...

Migrating soon... but to where, I don't know yet.

Egosh · 8 May 2007 at 11:18

reading about the problems people are having with their isps whether it be poor service or dl speeds or throttling i think im on one of the very few isps that actually provide 100% the service you pay for...

.walls · 8 May 2007 at 11:21

Egosh said:
reading about the problems people are having with their isps whether it be poor service or dl speeds or throttling i think im on one of the very few isps that actually provide 100% the service you pay for...

who are you with?

Egosh · 8 May 2007 at 12:54

ukonline..im on there 8mb service and i dl torrents albeit private ones at 840kb/s ,ping less than 10 on game servers, never had any sort of down time or any problems getting disconnected randomly. and to top it off its only £20 for unlimited 8mb broadband.