VA TV - Blur?

greatash

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Hi all im looking to buy a new TV in the next week or so, pretty much only for gaming via PC and upcoming PS5.
I have my mind set on the Samsung RU7400 series, I was going to get the RU8000 for 120hz but it doesnt have a 120hz panel at 50" (the max size I can go for my room size).
Was also looking at Philips 50" 6754 but has a little more input lag than the samsungs.

My main concern is VA blur, I tried a few VA monitors before I settled on my current Dell s2719dgf (TN) and I absolutely hated the blur/smearing in darker scenes. Im guessing the VA TVs will be the same with that smearing on dark colors?

Seems the ru7400 can come in either VA or IPS so I can shop around to try and find an IPS model. If anyone has experience with VA TVs and gaming please let me know if the blur is present.
 
When it comes to TVs, when we talk about blur its something that affects the whole image; light parts as well as dark.

The sort of problems that affects just the darker parts of the image tend to be related to either too much compression in the source signal, or a panel with limited bit depth. You see the effects of compression with broadcast TV signals. Dark scenes where there's very limited brightness difference between large portions of the image take on a smeary effect.

With PC monitors, it's something different. An RGB colour video signal for 0-255 shade levels per channel needs 8 bits per channel to distinguish each shade. That's 8 bits per channel, multiplied by 3 channels, to give 24 bit colour. The thing is, not all LCD panel monitors are capable of doing full 24 bit colour. Some use 6 bit per channel, then try to fudge the remaining 2 bit colour by toggling (dithering) between two colours it can do. You'll see this described in the spec as something along the lines of "8bit (6 + 2FRC)" . It's a cost-saving thing and something to be aware of when you're weighing up specs and prices, particularly on lower- to mid-range models.
 
greatash said:
Hi all im looking to buy a new TV in the next week or so, pretty much only for gaming via PC and upcoming PS5.
I have my mind set on the Samsung RU7400 series, I was going to get the RU8000 for 120hz but it doesnt have a 120hz panel at 50" (the max size I can go for my room size).
Was also looking at Philips 50" 6754 but has a little more input lag than the samsungs.

My main concern is VA blur, I tried a few VA monitors before I settled on my current Dell s2719dgf (TN) and I absolutely hated the blur/smearing in darker scenes. Im guessing the VA TVs will be the same with that smearing on dark colors?

Seems the ru7400 can come in either VA or IPS so I can shop around to try and find an IPS model. If anyone has experience with VA TVs and gaming please let me know if the blur is present.
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I went from TN to va monitor and see no blurring afaik Samsung 27" 1440p 144hz is one of the faster ones.

Perhaps va TV are slower than va monitors?
 
hornetstinger said:
I went from TN to va monitor and see no blurring afaik Samsung 27" 1440p 144hz is one of the faster ones.

Perhaps va TV are slower than va monitors?
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depends on the person tbh, I can see it on all VA monitors. my brother just got a new expensive 4k VA panel and I can see the smearing whilst he cannot.
anyways after looking at VA in store it does seems to have the same smearing as the VA monitors - since I will be using the TV only for gaming/pc use I will avoid, they are good for movies though thanks to the contract ratio.

im just going to save up for an OLED which should be worth it.
 
I would head over rtings and look af some of their reviews if you are concerned about motion blur: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews

I know what you mean, because I have had monitors and TVs in the past that were VA panels that exhibited a lot of motion blur, predominately in dark scenes as you describe.

I can't speak for the latest 60hz VA panels in 4K tvs, but I have seen the motion on a Samsung 55KS8000 from 2016 and that was a 120hz VA panel, and I saw very little to no motion blur.

If you look at the rtings reviews as a guide, you may notice a lot of the cheaper Samsung panels over the years tend to have some motion blur through slower response times with transitions in dark scenes. The cheaper LG panels on the other hand tend to fair better but use IPS panels and the main weakness is a poorer contrast.

It's hard to tell whether a more expensive 49 inch q70r or q60r 60hz panel would be much better than the cheaper Samsung in terms of motion, but at a guess, I would say so because the types of panels used are likely to to be higher quality.

At your preference screen size, your options are probably: Sony 49XG9005 or Sony 49XG8396 (both 120hz VA panels except the Xg8396 has no local dimming) or the nano cell LG range and below.

But the next issue you will have besides motion is whether you wish to have IPS vs VA and thr type of local dimming, so I do recommend you read the rtings site to get a good idea.

But see if you can demo some trailers at a richer sounds on the TVs you are interested in.
 
I would take the VA and its inherent faults (can fix mostly with Overdrive) over IPS glow and poor blacks/low contrast ratio that effect everything.

One of the best gaming monitors ever made "EIZO FORIS FG2421" is a VA but it is a Sharp panel not poor QA Samsung or, LG or even worse AU Optronics.
 
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Again I think depends on the monitor I read up and a lot of bad va and some are fast enough as long as not twitcher FPS games, I played doom Zipping around and it's brill no ghosting.

Last time.playkng Witcher, wot, war thunder, wowships those are fine.
 
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