VA vs IPS - difference THAT big?

Fry750

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I'm using a Dell S2179H which is 1080p and IPS. Nothing special really, only 60hz but it seems really quite decent, colours are vibrant and I've not noticed anything too bad.

A couple of hours ago I took delivery of a Philips 4K monitor - only released in Julyish so it's fairly recent.

The Philips is 4K, HDR600 compliant and uses a VA panel.

Immediately the Philips has that VA glare/off black greyness. The colours don't appear as vibrant and they're just awful when HDR is turned off. I thought one of the perks of VA panels was their colour and contrast abilities.

The monitor will definitely be returned but it's £500+ and not impressive at all. Even the speakers seem worse than the Dell.

Presumably something like the LG 32UD99 with its IPS panel would be more favourable...

Any thoughts? Are VA panels destined to be rubbish irrespective of cost?
 
It's been a fair few hours since I installed the monitor.

To it's credit, it's much better than I initially thought. Turns out the Xbox was muting colours for some reason, play via laptop and VLC however and colours are as punchy as the Dell.

When HDR is enabled mind you there's a distinct change in the legibility, it's almost too bright. Similarly when dark scenes are playing, the backlight emanation points are clearly visible in the bottom corners.

What dose intrigue me though is the HP Omen 65" panel which is VA. That's a £3.5K outlay for a potentially the same drawbacks - it sounds crazy!
 
I'll give it a go with Project Cars later.

I don't understand why smearing should be so prevalent, it claims to have a 4ms pixel response time.
 
Hmmm - have just tried Project Cars and there's no smearing as such but the Philips appears to have issues with black...

Some of the darker part of the image become blocky and completely black - either it's because the monitor is poor it can't distinguish or it's so good that it's highlighting deficiencies in the picture...

Anyway, switching to laptop display and it's all dark and black, no signs of any blocky blackness. Thoughts?
 
Follow up - Just tried some Dark Knight (Blu-ray) scenes with HDR on and my god...

The black splotchiness is everywhere, it looks like an awful quality YouTube video. How anyone could fork out cash and be satisfied with this is beyond me.
 
In case any one was curious:

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I didn't touch the settings really, even with brightness down to 40% there were occasions with splotchy blackness. It made playing Destiny 2 quite difficult in areas as it was borderline impossible to see.

The monitor also came with a certificate from Philips stating they'd claimed it at the factory - no idea how good the job was mind you...
 
Sorry to reignite this thread but is the prevailing opinion the black splotchiness below caused by poor calibration?

I've been intrigued by the BenQ EW3280U - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/benq...-widescreen-led-gaming-monitor-mo-134-bq.html as it's more or less the same specs as the Philips (see image below) but IPS instead of VA.

If I bought the EW3280U, presumably I wouldn't experience the bizarre artefacting below (that is 100% what was displayed, no idea how that could be considered okay for a multimedia monitor) but if calibration would've fixed it, perhaps VA is a worthy consideration.

Thoughts please?

Fry750 said:
In case any one was curious:

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