Vallay or Vallett?

BillHicksRIP · 18 Aug 2009 at 23:40

So, how do you pronounce valet?

Booner! · 18 Aug 2009 at 23:41

Vallay

cymatty · 18 Aug 2009 at 23:41

Booner! said:
Vallay

Hxc · 18 Aug 2009 at 23:51

Comes from French so the t is silent. Vallay.

Matt82 · 18 Aug 2009 at 23:54

detail

Ricochet J · 18 Aug 2009 at 23:55

Do it yourself.

Sin_Chase · 18 Aug 2009 at 23:57

Pronounced vallay.

Not sure when detail became commonplace? Always knew it as valeting, dad ran his own business/worked in the trade for 14 years!

PardonTheWait · 19 Aug 2009 at 00:01

Vallay parking

Valleting cars.

If it's vallaying a car, why would a person who performs it be called a valeter? I don't know if it's just a now-accepted mispronunciation, but I've worked in car washes doing valeting and I've never heard anyone say it as vallay when referring to the act of cleaning a car.

miniyazz · 19 Aug 2009 at 00:05

Booner! said:
Vallay

Hxc said:
Comes from French so the t is silent. Vallay.

Morba · 19 Aug 2009 at 00:17

PardonTheWait said:
Vallay parking

Valleting cars.

Yep

BigglesPiP · 19 Aug 2009 at 00:23

It's French, so I use an English phrase instead.

Same thing for 'NB', and 'RSVP'.

PardonTheWait · 19 Aug 2009 at 00:29

If you stopped using all the words we've poached from other languages you'd be left with... not much

Stellios · 19 Aug 2009 at 00:31

Matt82 said:
detail

BigglesPiP · 19 Aug 2009 at 00:34

PardonTheWait said:
If you stopped using all the words we've poached from other languages you'd be left with... not much

I'm happy to use the Franco/Italian/Spanish/Latinish, and Germanic words which are now different.

But ones which are the same still, people only use to try and poshify something, which I hate. Vallet is a classic case in point.

Lum · 19 Aug 2009 at 04:44

Vallay is technically correct as the word is of French origin, but I'm not French so I pronounce it Vallett just like everyone else I know. I'd still use the French version if it was someone who wanted to park my car for me (shortly afterwards I'd tell them to F-off I'll park it myself thanks) but for a bloke who washes cars, most definitely not.

Lopéz · 19 Aug 2009 at 07:23

Vallay.

"Detail" is an American term as far as I'm aware, in fact I remember hearing it in Back To The Future II when it came out.

However, detailing in the UK these days is not really what you'd expect from a normal valet, it's become a new term for what we always referred to as "Concours Cleaning" in the UK.

Freefaller · 19 Aug 2009 at 07:48

Hxc said:
Comes from French so the t is silent. Vallay.

Indeed. Therefore there is no other way of pronouncing it. End of thread.

That's the way you pronounce the word, it's nothing to do with absurd notions of "poshifying" :/

Lum · 19 Aug 2009 at 07:53

Lots of words change their pronunciation when they are imported from other languages. For example compare the pronunciation of the english word "mutton" to the French word it comes from "mouton".

Matt82 · 19 Aug 2009 at 08:16

and imagine how they say mutton in essex haha

Freefaller · 19 Aug 2009 at 08:36

Lum said:
Lots of words change their pronunciation when they are imported from other languages. For example compare the pronunciation of the english word "mutton" to the French word it comes from "mouton".

They are 2 different words :confused:

in 2 different languages?!