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Vega64

father-ted

father-ted

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This is a hard one. Arguably because of Freesync the Vega 64 will give you the better experience but the 1080ti is the better card. I would go Vega 64 myself if you can get a decent deal on one. At 1440p it should give you enough fps to be smooth and Freesync will do the rest. I think it will edge the 1080ti in the smoothness experience. Again though hopefully the price is right.
 
TheRealDeal said:
This is a hard one. Arguably because of Freesync the Vega 64 will give you the better experience but the 1080ti is the better card. I would go Vega 64 myself if you can get a decent deal on one. At 1440p it should give you enough fps to be smooth and Freesync will do the rest. I think it will edge the 1080ti in the smoothness experience. Again though hopefully the price is right.
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I recall that someone mentioning having used a 1080Ti on a display with no sync enable vs Vega 64 with Freesync, he find that the over experience is better on the latter.

With that said, I'm not sure I would recommend buying a Vega at this point in time, as its performance to price ratio is just not great. Same performance as the 1070/1080 but higher in price and hotter running is a bitter pill to swallow.

The whole point of Freesync is that sync function is "free", but it is not when you have to pay a price premium over Nvidia's compariable offerings to use it.
 
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Marine-RX179 said:
I recall that someone mentioning having used a 1080Ti on a display with no sync enable vs Vega 64 with Freesync, he find that the over experience is better on the latter.
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Yea someone on here did the the same with a Fury non x and gtx980ti and said because of Freesync the slower Fury gave the better experience. It would be hard to opt for a slower card but the whole package counts more.
 
Personally would go with 1080ti. Insanely more powerful and we'll more solid card.

I could list the issues I had with Vega. Luckily mines was in the 14 day refund window ;>
 
Ok thanks, that is a bit out of my price range.
I have around £700-750 to throw at a screen.

May have to stick with the vega64 option for that reason
 
Vega @1440p just rips through everything out atm add Freesync and its a great experience.
Sure the 1080Ti is a faster GPU around 40fps more but let's be realistic here at what point does an average FPS matter?
If I gaming on Vega at 100fps Freesync enabled vs 1080Ti at say 144fps vsync I would say the Vega GPU would feel better.

Once you above 100fps on any GPU Freesync vs Gsync or both Vsync enabled I very doubt meany people could tell the difference.
 
father-ted said:
Hi,

I am contemplating purchasing this monitor:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sams...quantum-dot-widescreen-monitor-mo-232-sa.html

I will also need a new gfx card - so was thinking of going for a Vega64
Will this card play all games on max settings, or would I be better off saving the extra £s and go 1080ti (with a different screen)?
Is the difference in performance worth the extra spend?

Thanks
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Do you plan to watercool the card? If so bear in mind that only the Vega 64 Strix is available having a block for it. (EK makes a special one).

All other waterblocks are for reference PCB that you won't find any card with in UK for sale atm. Only in some other countries like Germany but at prices that make it stupid purchase.

CF791 has some quirks but it will serve you well with a Vega 64.

Now to the Green side.

GTX1080Ti is pretty monstrous card and you wont need to upgrade well into 2020s.
Other than the usual options for monitors of which many are crappy and overpriced, two stand out imho.
The upcoming LG nano IPS 3440x1440 gsync coming out in October. (HDR400 version for Freesync also).
And the LG 32GK850G 2560x1440.
 
The Vega cards are still too expensive, the Gigabyte thats only £499, has a terrible cooler by all accounts, so i wouldn't touch that one, the Powercolor Devil is supposedly good, but at £529, its not worth it over the 1080, which you can get for about £80 chepaer.

Id definitely take a 1080 Ti over a Vega, its just the higher G-Sync cost, not long back, you could have got a 1080 Ti and a G-Sync screen, for not much more than a 64 and a FreeSync, or a 1080 and a G-Sync, for around the same price, as the Vega cards were well expensive, they were hundreds over the 1080, and were even more than the Ti.
 
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LoadsaMoney said:
The Vega cards are still too expensive, the Gigabyte thats only £499, has a terrible cooler by all accounts, so i wouldn't touch that one, the Powercolor Devil is supposedly good, but at £529, its not worth it over the 1080, which you can get for about £80 chepaer.

Id definitely take a 1080 Ti over a Vega, its just the higher G-Sync cost, not long back, you could have got a 1080 Ti and a G-Sync screen, for not much more than a 64 and a FreeSync, or a 1080 and a G-Sync, for around the same price, as the Vega cards were well expensive, they were hundreds over the 1080, and were even more than the Ti.
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True and the main issue that I haven't switched from 1080Ti to Vega is the lack of affordable reference PCB for OC.
Even if the Strix @ £600 looking a good deal with £150 worth of gifts, I would rather had the card at £480 and no free gifts.
I could have bought it on the spot and then try to sell the 1080Ti.

Of course current 1080Ti prices are stupid also. I bought the Aorus Xtreme for 600, now is almost 900.
Amazing cooler, but ain't worth that extra 300 atm. And given one of the big three (MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte) sent to Nvidia 300000 GPUs back because they have full inventory, the high prices have nothing to do with supply and demand on the Nvidia, or AIB side.

But if that is the case, then as well we might not see Pascal refresh until 2019 as expected, and the August announcement will be a rhetoric about new techs for gaming, not launching a new product as such. Hell they could launch another Volta Ceo 2 edition for that matter.
 
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I really don't see where the drama is, just settle for this:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £459.89 (includes shipping: £9.90)
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Flash with a Vega 64 BIOS, thus unlocking the shaders and you will be fine.

The cheapest GTX 1080 Ti is 210 pounds (50% ! ) more expensive. For this amount of money, you can buy a new extremely fast CPU or loads of fast M.2 PCI-E SSD capacity.
 
4K8KW10 said:
:confused: :confused:
I really don't see where the drama is, just settle for this:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £459.89 (includes shipping: £9.90)
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Flash with a Vega 64 BIOS, thus unlocking the shaders and you will be fine.

The cheapest GTX 1080 Ti is 210 pounds (50% ! ) more expensive. For this amount of money, you can buy a new extremely fast CPU or loads of fast M.2 PCI-E SSD capacity.
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You can get a 1080 for that.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pali...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-038-pl.html
 
4K8KW10 said:
:confused: :confused:
I really don't see where the drama is, just settle for this:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £459.89 (includes shipping: £9.90)
​

Flash with a Vega 64 BIOS, thus unlocking the shaders and you will be fine.

The cheapest GTX 1080 Ti is 210 pounds (50% ! ) more expensive. For this amount of money, you can buy a new extremely fast CPU or loads of fast M.2 PCI-E SSD capacity.
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V56 with v64 bios won't unlock to 4096 shaders, and the hbm2 doesn't always like running at v64 speeds. That gigabyte suffers from a high PCB temp, and the cooler is not great but fine for a v56 bios. Undervolted and tweaked it'll be fine, though the fans are probably going to fail at some stage, unless you don't mind oiling them.

The 1080ti is overpriced and old aged, vega lacking grunt, I wouldn't purchase either at this late stage. Unless you really need something, hold then buy the best monitor you can and decide from that.

And yes I have a v64 and freesync 1440p.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
You can get a 1080 for that.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pali...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-038-pl.html
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I cannot :D

Davedree said:
V56 with v64 bios won't unlock to 4096 shaders, and the hbm2 doesn't always like running at v64 speeds. That gigabyte suffers from a high PCB temp, and the cooler is not great but fine for a v56 bios. Undervolted and tweaked it'll be fine, though the fans are probably going to fail at some stage, unless you don't mind oiling them.

The 1080ti is overpriced and old aged, vega lacking grunt, I wouldn't purchase either at this late stage. Unless you really need something, hold then buy the best monitor you can and decide from that.

And yes I have a v64 and freesync 1440p.
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At least it is worth it to try.

This means that Vega 56 can effectively become a Vega 64 in performance
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https://www.techpowerup.com/236632/...lash-no-unlocked-shaders-improved-performance

AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 Flashed With Vega 64 BIOS Unlocks Hefty Performance Gains
https://hothardware.com/news/amd-radeon-rx-vega-56-unlocked-vega-64-bios-flash#85P2YkLsJSb4JTCf.99
Tweakers over at Chiphell discovered that the transplanted BIOS raised the stock clock speeds of the Vega 56 from 1471 MHz / 800 MHz (GPU boost/HBM2 memory) to 1545 MHz / 945MHz. When clocked identically to the Vega 64, the card was shown to only be 2 percent slower. What’s even more intriguing is that clock speeds were overclocked even further to 1650 MHz / 1100 MHz with absolutely no drama.
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