Vertex 4 - mini review

mikeo said:
Regarding registry de-frag. Again I've never been convinced this was worthwhile myself. But for an SSD, I suspect once again it's not really a good idea. For the same reason probably that a de-frag on an SSD in general isn't a good idea (IE. only the controller in the SSD "really" knows where the data is being stored). Though maybe someone else with more in depth knowledge of this area may wish to chip in.

Got to be totally honest. I'm yet to see any evidence that running these sorts of utilities on a regular basis make an real difference. Though once again, up to the individual to decide what they want and are happy with.

I've only ever used one of these sorts of utilities about twice in the last 10+ years and that was to try and sort a specific problem. And for that I used CCLEANER.

If it was me, I'd just leave the SSD to sort itself out :)
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cheers mate ;)

I know what you mean, but I do know for a fact that doing these things on the old mechanical sata drives defo did help, especially if you had not dont it for ages, I had seen people that never done a defrag etc and they asked me "why is my pc running at a snails pace", I said have you done a defrag recently, they said "nope, maybe a year ago", lol, soon as they used a half decent defrag program that done the main defrag and the registry defrag and also a system file clean either using the same program or Ccleaner (as you mentioned) the computer ran like 75% faster, lol.

But, from what we know so far is that a normal defrag is not good for an SSD, so at least we know that, its just trying to find out now what harm if any a registry defrag would do to an SSD now, thats all, then we'r sorted, well I am anyway, lol.

If the program I have had an option not to defrag the registry on the SSD then I wouldnt do anything to the SSD at all, just the old drives, its just that this program defrags the registry on all drives at one time, so It doesnt give me much of a choice.

Theres gotta be someone out there as you said that knows more about this or at least a program that is specially built to do similar things but with SSD's, ANYONE OUT THERE ??? HELLO, LOL. ;)
 
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@ Mikeo,

I was doing a bit of googling there and from what I can see so far you dont even need to defrag the reg either on an SSD, so your right enough again :) (well from the stuff I read anyway).

While i was at it I found this handy youtube video for people who dont know how to permanently turn off windows built in auto running defrag >>> I will also post this on my own thread too as its quite handy to remember as I had already forgot about it after I reinstalled windows again, lol. >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f8BYAkL0T4

What I need to find now is a program that will allow you to choose which drives to defrag just like the program I have, but the program I have doesnt have an option to select which which drives to defrag the registry, it does them all, so I need to find one that allows me to choose normal defrag and registry for each drive as there is now things I have Installed on my old drives that have short cuts to them and operate from the SSD (windows drive) desktop, so I would guess (I'm not sure) that the registery on the other drives need defragged too as its communicating with windows, but as I say, I dont know, hmmmm :confused:
 
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scotslad

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to do. But there is only one Windows registry and that will reside on the disk that contains your O/S. Unless you have your system set up to dual boot of course and you have a different OS on another drive. Or am I missing something here?
 
mikeo said:
scotslad

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to do. But there is only one Windows registry and that will reside on the disk that contains your O/S. Unless you have your system set up to dual boot of course and you have a different OS on another drive. Or am I missing something here?
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what i am saying is that,

windows is installed to the SSD, ok ?

BUT, I have installed a lot of programs onto my old style mechanical sata drive so that i can save space on the SSD (I only have the one SSD) and for those programs I have created a shortcut to be able to use the programs that are installed on the old drive (shortcut obviously on the main windows desktop screen), therefore I would have imagined that that means surely windows and windows registry has some kind of interfierence with communicating between the main windows drive (SSD) and the old drive as the SSD is communicating with another drive, you get what I mean now ??

lol, see, there is a slight bit of logic in what I am saying (well so I think, LOL).

And if there is communication with windows from the SSD to the old hard drive then thats what made me think hmmmm, I wonder if that means that any part of windows resides on that old drive even though the main windows install is on the SSD, I.E - bits n pieces of the registry and things like that.

There has to be something otherwise the two drives wouldnt be able to talk to each other from the way I am thinking anyway, no ?

I hope you understand a bit more in what my logic of thinking was/is now as I didnt make it 100% clear.

thanks.;)
 
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"hmmmm, I wonder if that means that any part of windows resides on that old drive even though the main windows install is on the SSD, I.E - bits n pieces of the registry and things like that."

... simple answer... "no".

There is only one Windows registry.

Your short-cuts simply point to the relevant drive and there is information stored on the target drive that allows the required file to be located. Though this is a very simplistic description of how it works.

See:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc781134(v=ws.10).aspx
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_shortcut
for more detail. Though you may need a bit of time to digest all this :)

PS. The key (both metaphorically and literally) is the Master File Table stored on each drive (see http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/ntfs/archMFT-c.html).
 
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