Very Confused, Could Use Help.

[UnusualSuspect]

This is really strange, so I'd appreciate any help you people can give me. For quick reference: I have a Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz, Gigabyte 965P-DS3 and an Enermax Liberty 620W Power Supply.

I used to have the Antec Gaming Case but just switched to a Thermaltake VA8003BWS Armour. With the Antec I was having nice temperatures of about 30c Idle and maybe 40c on load. Now I've switched cases my temperatures have pretty much doubled!

I'm certain it can't be the case, I mean, I've got the side of the case off and all the fans powered off and I get the same temperature as when everything is on and working, which makes no sense.

I downloaded two programs, Intel Themal Analysis Tool and SpeedFan and I get bad readings from both of them. The Intel and SpeedFan both agree the temperatures are 57c/62c on idle, up to 80c on load. But the weirdest thing is SpeedFans voltage readings:

Vcore1: 1.22v / Vcore2: 1.89v (wtf?!) / +3.3v: 3.38v / +5v: 4.92v

Now this is where it gets really weird. Now I know that this is SpeedFan on Vista so there might be some incompatibilites, but this is what comes next:

+12v: 0.19v / -12v: -16.97v / -5v: -8.58v / +5v: 5.05v / Vbat: 3.2v

In the BIOS it gives the reading of +12v: OK, so I'm thinking its just a program error, but what the hell? Why have my temperatures doubled to crazy levels like this just from moving the PC from one case to another. Anyone? Please help!

 

[schumi84]

Are there any more/less fans in the new case as there could be a problem with airflow or air pressure in the case affecting temps.

Also with regards to the voltages, speedfan, cpu cool are useless for voltages, the only program that measured them correctly is the one that comes with the DS3 mobo, EasyTune 5. I dont use the overclocking features as do it straight through the BIOS as no idea how reliable it is.

 

[UnusualSuspect]

Theres a couple of new fans in there. The Antec had two front fans, a rear fan and the monster top fan. This new one has two front fans, two rear fans, one top fan and a side fan. But as I said, I'm currently running it with no fans at all with the side of the case off and the whole thing on its side (heat rises, right?) and its still crazy temperatures.

Using EasyTune I found my voltages are fine, so thats calmed my nerves down a bit. But I'm getting a weird 49c for system temperature, which of course bumps my CPU temp up to 54c (the lowest its been all day!).

The conclusion I'm coming to is that the material this case is made of is conducting the heat from the Geforce 8800 so its acting like a mini-oven. The metal around the Geforce and at the back of the case is very warm to the touch.

Hmm.. thinking of switching back to the old case, which would be a great waste of £100. Dammit.

 

[Justintime]

1.89 is likely the DDR2 voltage, reseat the heatsink/fan, did you do this when you switched cases? quite possibly its become unseated and not making good contact.

 

[UnusualSuspect]

1.89 is likely the DDR2 voltage, reseat the heatsink/fan, did you do this when you switched cases? quite possibly its become unseated and not making good contact.

I didn't reseat it, but I don't think its the CPU temperature I have to worry about really, its the system temperature. The Geforce is just roasting the surrounding area and sending the temperatures soaring. I think it must be the material this case is made of, the Antec never held heat in like this thing does.

I'm going back to the Antec tomorrow, its a bit cramped because of the size of the 8800, but at least its not burning the house down.

 

[batchie]

i have the same case was running an 7900 gtx overclocked duo 6600 only one 120mm front fan one 120mm top fan and the 120 and 90mm back fans temps droped by 15 dec from my previous case so the material the case is made from cant be an issue my mobo was 30 and cpu 40 have just brought a 8800gtx but have issues with mobo at moment so cant give you readings.

 

[Justintime]

I didn't reseat it, but I don't think its the CPU temperature I have to worry about really, its the system temperature. The Geforce is just roasting the surrounding area and sending the temperatures soaring. I think it must be the material this case is made of, the Antec never held heat in like this thing does.

I'm going back to the Antec tomorrow, its a bit cramped because of the size of the 8800, but at least its not burning the house down.

If you're getting those temps from a cold start before the Geforce warms up i'd suspect the cpu sink, at least try it to make sure? might save some hassle. Bad contact can cause the heatsink to become overly hot as well as the cpu is getting hotter than usual and the warm air rises up the gap and goes into the heatsink making everything around it hotter as well.

 

[UnusualSuspect]

If you're getting those temps from a cold start before the Geforce warms up i'd suspect the cpu sink, at least try it to make sure? might save some hassle. Bad contact can cause the heatsink to become overly hot as well as the cpu is getting hotter than usual and the warm air rises up the gap and goes into the heatsink making everything around it hotter as well.

I'll leave the computer turned off overnight and see what it starts from cold tomorrow morning. If it starts off fine then its the case, if it starts hot then I'll reseat the CPU and try again.

But I've moved the side of the case over the top of the Geforce and surroundings, rather than where it used to be pointing, and I've currently got the temperatures down to 38c System / 53c CPU, so I'm aiming my bets at the case being the problem.

We'll see in the morning!

 

[UnusualSuspect]

Back again.

I started the computer this morning and the CPU temperature started around the mid 30's and steadily climbed upwards as the interior of the case heated up.

I tried again this afternoon and got the same thing, so I decided to see if the airflow was a problem. I've now got a large home fan blowing from where a front-based fan would be set, and its lowered the temperatures to much more sensible levels.

With the exterior fan blowing in toward the side of the case (from a distance, not straight in), the System temperature is at 34c and CPU is close to matching it at 36c-38c idle. This is more like the temperatures I used to get in the Antec case.

Actually, I just moved the fan to be more in line with a fan thats blowing from the front of the case - similar distance and angle - and the system has gone even lower, down to 31c now, CPU's staying at 36c-38c.

If that doesn't show this case sucks, I don't know what does. If I can, I'll try and take a fan off the Antec and place it in this one and see if it makes a lot of difference. If not, I'll go back to the Antec.

At the moment though, I'm too lazy, drinking wine and munching snacks, so it'll have to wait..

 

[Corasik]

The case being hot to touch isnt automatically a bad thing, as its large surface area generally means the case works pretty well as a heatsink, so any heat that gets transfered there should disipate into your room. Thats especially true of aluminium cases which lose their heat very easily.

 

[UnusualSuspect]

Back again. Installed the new cooler, the Freezer 7 Pro, and I'm getting much better temperatures than before, which brings me to believe the earlier poster was correct that it had become unseated.

However, I was both right and wrong in that respect, as its still too hot inside that case. The airflow really does suck. From EasyTune 5 I'm getting temperatures of 44c System and 34c CPU. Thats the first time in any case I've ever owned, where the System has been higher than the CPU, its always been the other way around.

So still considering going back to the Antec 900.