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Very high 3930k temps

RizlaKing

RizlaKing

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Hoping someone can help as I'm out of ideas. I removed my water cooling to give it a clean and refill putting a thermal take frio advanced cooler on while I sorted water cooling. When I boot up temps are hitting 90° and the system shutsdown. Still using the MSI x79a gd65 board and all settings are default I've checked both the CPU and socket both are fine. I checked the seating of the cooler and that's also OK tim coverage is near full but not overly thick. Right now the PC will not run unattended and to get to desktop I'm having to delay the overheat shutdown. Temps go down as low as 42° then suddenly spike up hitting high temps long enough to shut the system down. All this with both case sides off on a corsair 700d ambient room tempreture between 19 & 23°'s.

All I can think of now is something within windows is creating problems but there is no malware or viruses according to mbam pro or kaspersky. Hoping someone has some ideas as its driving me nuts not being able to play a game to chill out. Due to money issues gonna be a few weeks before watercooling can go back in but surely i shouldnt be having this level of problem. Thank for any help offered anything is appreciated.
 
Yeah system idle process occupying between 70 & 90% I'm totally stumped tried turning off cores that didn't work thinking of undervolting it but as temps not been a problem before can't see how that would cause a prob observed voltage has never gone above 1.12.
 
I wonder if you have one of those mining malware things that cains your CPU usage? Have a Google and see if any of your processes match.
 
Sudden temp spiking on WC sounds like an air bubble to me - but if it's with the frio then I'm less sure. The heat pipes are not likely to be damaged and if it was poorly fitted I'd assume it'd be hot all the time rather than okish then shooting up. How hot is it in bios/memtest etc if you give it a minute? Should rule out windows virus issues, seems more likely to be related to the cooling changes to me.
 
System idle process being between 70 & 90% means that your CPU is largely idle.

I would say the cooler is the problem personally, it's one of those with bare heatpipes on the bottom according to this?

IMO that's bad design because all of the heat is being piled into the central heatpipe and it won't spread onto the other heatpipes, the heat will have to first spread across the CPU heatspreader before the other 4 non-central heatpipes come into play.

I may be wrong you could try to reseat it or maybe rotate it 90 degrees but it just seems like a poor design to me.
 
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Thanks guys yeah they are bare mmj I've tried rotating it to no effect I've got the fans running at 100% as well so not sure the cooler is the problem as the temps do go low. Second I do anything temp goes through roof really doesn't make sense. In BIOS temp is reported at 84° although I have found its not accurate at all as that used to report 75° under water while realtemp would report 38-39°. All memory modules have passed testing but multiple shutdowns whilst doing it.
 
When 2011 launched Intel released a press statement to say that certain coolers could not put enough pressure on the socket.

Does your Frio state specifically that it can run on 2011? or are you using the 1366 mount?

120mm coolers are mostly ineffective on 2011.
 
Looking at the reviews it's OK and a midrange air cooler.

Stupid question time - you did remove the plastic film from the contact area before fitting ?

From what you've said the CPU is acting as if there is no cooler attached i.e. temps spiking when there is any activity at all. Have yo got another cooler you can try, maybe borrow one ?

If not I would remove all the mounting brackets from the board and refit to make sure everything is as it should be and fully seated then try again.

If the cooler was working properly then any temp rise would be more gradual and not instant.
 
OK weird update I noticed the date and time was wrong so I corrected that and the system has a spike on entry into the desktop but after that it cools right down and doesn't go higher then 60°. Got no idea how that influences anything but its the only change I've made. Noticed in processes that windows trusted installer and .net optimisation something were occupying 40% of the CPU and after correcting the date they have stopped.
 
Another update installed hwmonitor just to make sure temps were being reported properly and in the CPU description it says the same as core temp but then has (ES) does that mean its an engineering sample. Still has the one spike when first get into desktop but calms down after despite looking all over the net cannot find a reason why wrong date would create this problem.
 
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