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video card/cpu/motherboard upgrade

Soldato
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Hi,

I'd like some advice on the best upgrade path available to me.

Firstly here's my current system-

Asus P4C800
Intel P4 3.2 HT Prescott (freezer 4 cooler)
Powercolour X800 Pro 256 Mb (softmodded to XT, running at 500/500) AGP (/w VGA Silencer)
Twinmos DDR400 1.5 GB (dual channel, 2 * 256, 2 * 512)
Maxtor SATA 150 HDD 120 GB
SB Audigy 2 ZS
Thermaltake Tsunami case
Dual 12 cm LED fans / Nexus fan controller
LG DVD writer
Enemax Noisetaker 475W dual rail PSU

Some good stuff there (apart from the rattley TT case :D ), or at least it was good when I bought it all. Runs nice and quiet too.

The first obvious things is - clearly most of the current system has to go. The video card is AGP, so is the motherboard, so any worthwhile upgrade (IMO) means a switch to PCI-Express, so that means at least a new motherboard, new CPU and new video card.

From a price point of view I'm looking at A64s, Socket 939. A64 4000+ at £117 looks about right. Possibly I'll get the OEM version @£105 and an AC Freezer 64 since I've owned a few AC coolers (see above) and been impressed by them. For the video card there's the Connect3D X1800 XT 256 mb at £170 or a HIS 512mb version at £205. My current card is 500/1000 with 16 pipes (ps2.0), so I'm only going to consider something significantly better. 625/1500 with 16 pipes and ps3.0 would be enough to be worth it IMO. I suppose 7900 GTs are another option - there's the BFG version which is 475/1360 with 24 pipes and ps3.0 at £192. I will of course be checking out benchmarks before deciding on a video card.

Motherboard wise I'd like to stick with Asus, but I'm not too fussy here. Asus A8N-VM CSM Micro ATX PCI Express Motherboard at £55 seems to do everything I need since I'm not bothered about crossfire/SLI. I won't be using the onboard video/audio btw. Memory - I'm not budgeting for this at the moment since I want to see if my current ram works with the new motherboard first.

I'm looking to spend about £400.

So, questions-

-is it wise to go Socket939 still? Is it in danger of becoming a dead-end any time soon ?
-does this look like a good value for money upgrade ?
-are these good choices ?
-anything wrong with that relatively cheap motherboard, remembering that I'm not interested in crossfire/SLI ?
-any reason why I shouldn't get a motherboard with onboard video, given that I'm not going to use the onboard video ?
-am i missing anything obvious here ?

Thanks a million,
Simon.
 
Personally I'd ditch your ram.
your system would run better with just two sticks of higher capacity ram and would run in 1T mode.

If your building a new system why not wait a few weeks and go for a
core 2 duo chip.
not that much more cash and would give you a much better upgrade path in the future

Obvouisly if you go this route you would need DDR2 ram.
 
The system does say it's running in 'pure dual channel mode'. It says in the manual that while in each channel you need a pair of identical DIMMs, you don't need all 4 DIMMs to be identical. I haven't heard the term '1T' before, but there's a DRAM Idle Timer setting in the BIOS which I can set to 0T, 8T, 16T etc (but not 1T).

Anyway, I know you're right about DDR2/AM2 but the price of ram pushes me beyond what I want to spend. I'm only after a 'decent' speed increase, the main point of the upgrade is so my brother can have my old cpu/video card, and my parents PC can have his old stuff. Really don't have more than about £380 to spend.
 
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