Virgin Gig1 - what are people getting on average

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Just wondered if this was a good , average or poor in terms of what Virgin Gig1 offers, obviously seem plenty fast being 99% faster than the rest of the UK.



I've tested with a fair few game distributions platforms however most of them seem to be capped at current , i.e. Xbox Game Pass, Steam , Ubisoft reside between 150-250mbit download rate. Steam having the best result 220-250.
 
You may be able to go a bit higher on the download with a 2.5gbit Ethernet port and Cat6 cable. I'm sure I've seen genuine 1100Mbps results on Gig1.

It looks fine though and that ping is decent if consistent. If you want a more thorough and longer-term picture of how the connection is performing, you could set up a thinkbroadband quality monitor to keep a check on latency and packet loss.

Edit: Looking online I may be wrong, I think you're limited through the port on the modem.
 
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only just introduced 500mb in my area. area 30 and i get 550 on the pc and get around 250 on iphone WIFI which i expected more from the WIFI to be honest :(
 
946/52 avg, on the HUB4's SamKnow's built in App (seems a bit iffy) never had 1100+ to HUB like some have shown and it can tank to 400-500 to PC but in real use I get my 940+ full speed limited by LAN port on HUB4 and PC.

The fastest result I have seen so far was on my NV Shield TV (Wired).

I was on 350 and got 384 Wired and WIFI on PC/Phone/Shield but upgraded to 500 and results were all over the place same as many reported in forums, same now on 1Gb/s the speediest sites are not consistent but again I go by real files downloads.
 
I doubt many services can send you data at the full speed, so might want to have several things going to saturate the connection. This is assuming you're on a wired connection and your PC isn't limiting things at all.
 
No problems getting 940+Mb/s on any sites I use for you know what. ;)

I know slowdowns can happen at either VM side or the files sources end.

Not tried Steam yet and not gaming right now, catching up on TV shows, game when the dark nights creep and so room is nice and dark.

The HUB4 launching when it did with a 1Gb/s LAN port and no WIFI6 ax was a joke IMO.

Plenty of mid range Mobos this gen and even last gen have a 2.5Gb/s or greater LAN port as the Hub is Configured to at least 1.1Gb/s due to the 10% Contention so you could hit nearly over 1100Mb/s+ as it can now internally.
 
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On my desktop (Threadripper 3960X with Intel LAN and Linux or BSD) I get ~940Mbps all the time on speed tests

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Real life, I see the full gigabit (minus overheads) on certain downloads, and several hundred Mbps (often around 500-600Mbps) from general streaming/downloading/files type websites. I have found all the VPN services I use (WireGuard) cap around 550 to 620Mbps, which is plenty. The limit is the serving end, not my local setup or ISP any more, so that's nice.
 
Is there a way to actually get more than the 940-950 and get the 1130 advertised speeds?

Im using a cat6 cable (which should support upto 10gb speeds?) thats going from the virgin hub to a switch followed by another cat6 cable into my pc which is a b450 pro carbon ac.

I believe the bottlenecks are the switch im using (netgear 8 port gs108) and potentially my mobo gigabit switch which suppports only upto 1gb
 
You'd need to have two devices plugged into the SH4 at the same time and both doing a Speedtest, each device will get a share of the 1.1Gbps, and the total throughput should be the maximum provisioned rate.

Or you can have a wired device pulling 1Gbps and then a Wi-Fi client having whatever is left. There's no support for link aggregation or anything like that.
 
That is not exactly getting what most would call 1Gb/s, but VM can get around iot that way.

There is posts here showing where some user on VM forums have ran 2-3 cables to the HUB4 and using a device they bought to do the bonding got the full speed to the single device ie PC.

This used to only work for a short period of time before the setting they had to change reverts but now with the newer HUB4 update it sticks, guessing that is after they did the 2.3Gb testing in 2020 so will be how VM and the testers in that area did it ie 2 cables.
 
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That is not exactly getting what most would call 1Gb/s, but VM can get around iot that way.

There is posts here showing where some user on VM forums have ran 2-3 cables to the HUB4 and using a device they bought to do the bonding got the full speed to the single device ie PC.

This used to only work for a short period of time before the setting they had to change reverts but now with the newer HUB4 update it sticks, guessing that is after they did the 2.3Gb testing in 2020 so will be how VM and the testers in that area did it ie 2 cables.
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The switch and your motherboard (probably) are 1Gb not 2.5Gb or 10Gb. As such you'd only ever see gigabit, which is minus ethernet/TCP-IP packet overhead; so about 940Mbps - that's just physics, not VM robbing you. The SH4 is also only provisioned with gigabit ports on the four port switch at the rear, so again you'd only see 1Gb (940Mbps realistic) per port. Bonding is of course possible at the software or hardware level on a device after the hub, but for a few Mb it's practically useless outside of the geeky exercise... Would you *really* gain a real world benefit from 1100Mbps vs 940Mbps?
 
Where did I say they had a Mobo limited to 1Gb/s.

Do you even know what the other person and I am saying?

I have been on the 1Gb/s ages and I know it limited to 940Mb/s for myself so tell me something I do not know but others have gotten around it and YES they have 2.5Gb/s or greater NIC on their PC so do any new midrange Mobos today.

The other fact is VM tested 2.3Gb/ on same HUB4 so it must be on the cards for release sometime and again YES the end user will need a Mobo/NIC of 2.5Gb/s or greater but probably not the little box to bond the channel if VM can do it inside the HUB4 as I doubt it was done the same way the VM forum members did with the little box bonding 2-3 cables.


EDIT WHEN I FIND LINK to the process to get past 940Mb/ it is on VM Forum and Cable Forum UK.

Virgin Media UK Trials 2.2Gbps Broadband to Homes in Berkshire - ISPreview UK
 
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JohnG7 said:
Where did I say they had a Mobo limited to 1Gb/s.

Do you even know what the other person and I am saying?

I have been on the 1Gb/s ages and I know it limited to 940Mb/s for myself so tell me something I do not know
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Do you even realise not all replies are dedicated to you? I too have been on Gig1 since inception and have run link aggregation and bonding on WAN feeds in BSD and Linux for over 20 years. So yes, I know what you're talking about. No need to be so snarky.

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Is there a way to actually get more than the 940-950 and get the 1130 advertised speeds?

Im using a cat6 cable (which should support upto 10gb speeds?) thats going from the virgin hub to a switch followed by another cat6 cable into my pc which is a b450 pro carbon ac.

I believe the bottlenecks are the switch im using (netgear 8 port gs108) and potentially my mobo gigabit switch which suppports only upto 1gb
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You quoted me saying that not all Mobo have more then 1Gb/ so VM are not robbing me.

I know the limitation and why and other have bypassed it before and after the HUB4 update and obv VM have with that test above.

Some were saying same when VM's 100+Mb/s came out and they could not quite get full speeds they had older Mobos or most laptops with 100Mb/s NIC's that is down to the end user to resolve and upgrade.

Right now I cannot officially /easily plug my HUB4 into a 2.5/5/10Gb/s NIC and get past 940Mb/s but I am not too fussed like some are but 200-300Mb/s extra is not to be sneezed at nor is a 200-300Mb/ connection today as many do not even get that.
 
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I was not rude but you seem to have taking a hissy after admitting you may have misquoted me and you seem to want to tell me something I already knew so touché to the granny/eggs comment.
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"Can confirm the new firmware helps with LAN port aggregation in modem mode. The old version would establish a link using several ethernet ports but would revert to one link after six hours. The new one keeps the bonded link active across all the ports.
Potentially making this Hub useable in 2.5Gbit download tiers if and when when they get rolled out by VM."

1000M Hub 4 software update - Cable Forum


AFAIK the older software before HUB4 update (bonding lasts 6 hours then resets).

1000M 1gig Rollout getting faster - Page 6 - Cable Forum (the few pages either side of page 6) speeds were in the 1100-1200+Mb/s range.
 
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Modem and Router both work and that thread along with another detailing what you need and how to do it by one of the users on Cable Forum along with those threads linked to the on the VM forum but I am struggling to find them by keywords.
 
Vertigo1 said:
Interesting - I wasn't aware they supported port aggregation on the Hub4 in modem mode - is there any documentation or guide on this?
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It's not port aggregation - it's just sending packets across different physical links. It's like doing NIC teaming on VMware without LACP - it just fires different packets out different ports.
 
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