if virgin have started then other's will follow,imho i think that all isp's will follow suit and within a year they will be the same.
Virgin Media bows to record industry, to send P2P warning letters
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What I said was clearly a bit sarccy and is down to personal preference.
Although having said that I fail to see how if you can receive Virgins service as it should be why you'd choose anything else. Although I suppose it could be seen as quite expensive. But like I said, if it works its a price worth paying imo.
If you live near the exchange yes i live 1.2k away, so wouldn't get anything near the 20 i get atm, 2.3mbs i get on this and slowest speeds i seen so far is 1.6mbs, i am more than happy and i only paying £22 a month for it.
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No it isn't.
I had my first ever problem a couple of months ago after 8 years and the nice man put me a new modem in.
P2P warning letters are stupid IMO. Did anyone else read that article on /. where some university in the US tested what it would actully take to get warnings, and they found out that you dont actully have to transfer any copywrited material to get a warning, simply connecting to the tracker is enough. They also showed how easy it is to spoof the IP of people on a tracker, and as such they managed to get a warning sent to a a printer (the type of printer that acts as a network device that you can assign an IP to and such).
£60 a month for 10Mb broadband, unlimited (national) phone calls and Virgin's top TV service (minus Films and Sky Sports). Hard to argue with really.
Been with the service since they were Cable London, and the service has been really good all along. Recent events (since Virgin took over) are a little worrying, though.
Been with the service since they were Cable London, and the service has been really good all along. Recent events (since Virgin took over) are a little worrying, though.
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Id switch my net in a second if BT werent charging so much for reconnection.
Some people are stupid :/
Providers have been doing this for years. Companies set up "honey pots" for idiots who download from public trackers.
Not really, unless you want a better upload..
Quite simply because it isn't crap, that's why.
Although STM annoys me I can still download stupid amounts of stuff even with it. I very rarely have any connection issues, I very rarely get bad pings...
The only issue is if you're on an oversubscribed UBR. For example some users had problems in Manchester VM (albeit after a while) upgraded the UBR and now the users get good speeds.
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bit steep that is, phone them up and ask to speak to disconnections and moving. i get the same as you but with 20mb for £40.50
virgin has got better over the last year or so, after the initial renaming things went a bit **** up to the point where i considered leaving them but after i got my bargain of a deal it started to improve to the point where i get the full 20mb all the time, even now when i dont get 20mb a quick modem setting change and its 20mb again
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how is it something for nothing? the tv is pointless as its all old rubbish and the phone is hardly used. the net is the only thing that i need tbh and what channels that are watched are available on freeview.
they were the ones that offered me the deal after a sales rep at the moving and disconnetions department rang ME.
do you not barter when you buy anything? whether it be a product or a service? just becasue something is advertised at a certain price doesn't mean they wont do it any cheaper if you just ask
they were the ones that offered me the deal after a sales rep at the moving and disconnetions department rang ME.
do you not barter when you buy anything? whether it be a product or a service? just becasue something is advertised at a certain price doesn't mean they wont do it any cheaper if you just ask
I barter in a bazaar. I don't expect to walk in to a highstreet and say "I'll have that keyboard for £25" when it's worth £50.
Also I wasn't specifically aiming at you...VM are to blame as well, they do have to keep customers but still.
Also I wasn't specifically aiming at you...VM are to blame as well, they do have to keep customers but still.
VM tv does have some decent chans imo that freeview doesnt have, like FX, hallmark, dave, kerrang, and since im on XL TV as part of my package i can watch music videos for free. Then theres the virgin on demand programs, which they are starting to build up quite a selection now, although i only use it to watch Band of brothers.
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lol well that would take the mickey but still, nearly everywhere will do a discount if you ask and ask the right person
the only reason i am still with VM is due to not needing a phone line.
I pay 9.99 for 2mb i dont need any faster & I could not get a BT line for that.
The reason i would leave is...
1) I get mad problems (even happens on here) i click a link and get page cannot be displayed. Click refresh and it loads fine (DNS issue?)
2) When i do go over the 350-400mb cap (rare like less than once a week) web browsing is painful. All the speedtests say 1mb but pages seem to take 3 or 4 seconds to load... i cant explain it ?
3) I get pants downloadspeed to my webhost (50kb/s max) people on other ISP's have no problem getting 2000kb/s and more.
I guess you get what you pay for...
I pay 9.99 for 2mb i dont need any faster & I could not get a BT line for that.
The reason i would leave is...
1) I get mad problems (even happens on here) i click a link and get page cannot be displayed. Click refresh and it loads fine (DNS issue?)
2) When i do go over the 350-400mb cap (rare like less than once a week) web browsing is painful. All the speedtests say 1mb but pages seem to take 3 or 4 seconds to load... i cant explain it ?
3) I get pants downloadspeed to my webhost (50kb/s max) people on other ISP's have no problem getting 2000kb/s and more.
I guess you get what you pay for...
that's the issue for me also, installation of a new BT line just puts me off moving back to DSL for now - and also the fact that cable is 24/7 rock solid for me in over 3 years now.
i'm not a heavy leecher anymore either so i'm not affected, the STM still ***** me but i can live with it in it's current state at least.