Virgin XXL?

WalesOwl · 6 Sep 2009 at 17:55

Wanted to check that the virgin broadband XXL package is exempt from throttling?

Jonny · 6 Sep 2009 at 17:58

internet forum might be your best bet mate

PMKeates · 6 Sep 2009 at 17:59

It is exempt from throttling:

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/internet/traffic.html

WalesOwl · 6 Sep 2009 at 18:01

Thanks.

RoachycaL · 6 Sep 2009 at 18:04

It is for the moment yeah, I've read on forums recently that Virgin will be adding traffic management to it at some point which sucks

rexehuk · 6 Sep 2009 at 18:06

I'm going to try squeeze 50Mb out of them for free in the next few days... On 20Mb atm but the price of o2 is so small so might use that as leverage as we have most of our services with virgin. Will let you know how it goes

Berserker · 6 Sep 2009 at 18:12

RoachycaL said:
It is for the moment yeah, I've read on forums recently that Virgin will be adding traffic management to it at some point which sucks

When making a purchasing decision, I'd suggest assuming that they will, because let's face it, it's pretty likely.

Namak · 6 Sep 2009 at 18:17

Wouldn't introducing throttling after you have agreed the contract be a significant enough change to release you from it? Assuming they don't have small print reserving the right to do that.

RoachycaL · 6 Sep 2009 at 18:20

rexehuk said:
I'm going to try squeeze 50Mb out of them for free in the next few days... On 20Mb atm but the price of o2 is so small so might use that as leverage as we have most of our services with virgin. Will let you know how it goes

Cool, Id be interested to hear how that goes

Berserker said:
When making a purchasing decision, I'd suggest assuming that they will, because let's face it, it's pretty likely.

That's the reason we signed up with 20mb - however we've been with them for a month now and only been traffic shapen one evening.

Daegan · 6 Sep 2009 at 19:15

Namak said:
Wouldn't introducing throttling after you have agreed the contract be a significant enough change to release you from it? Assuming they don't have small print reserving the right to do that.

Their terms and conditions reserve the right to monitor and control traffic however they want.

Stuarts · 7 Sep 2009 at 16:51

Their terms and conditions reserve the right to monitor and control traffic however they want.

That is true.

But, presumably, as long as the 50mb is throttled by the same percentages, it should still be much quicker than 20mb I assume?

PistolPete · 7 Sep 2009 at 16:55

Products are throttled to 75%, to 50/1.5 will probably becomes 12.5/375.
The question is what after how much download/upload will the throttling kick in?

gareth170 · 7 Sep 2009 at 17:34

PistolPete said:
The question is what after how much download/upload will the throttling kick in?

more likely 17gb (daytime) / 7.5gb (evening)

PistolPete · 7 Sep 2009 at 18:24

Still plenty!

Dist · 8 Sep 2009 at 02:34

Slightly off topic but I didn't think it deserves its own thread as this thread discusses traffic management. Do VM adjust traffic based on type? my brother is with VM like me and had an issue so called VM to sort it out, and VM mentioned about deep packet inspection to slow traffic such as torrents. Is this true or did the guy at VM just make it up, because if they do use DPI thats a bit of a worry.

janp · 8 Sep 2009 at 09:21

I read on Virgin's forums that they currently have no plans on rolling their STM over to the new DOCSIS 3.0 network (i.e 50meg connections), expect this to change though when this new network becomes saturated. As I say read this on their forum but nothing official.

caz32 · 8 Sep 2009 at 12:38

Im on land line virgin 8mb, getting 6.5mb, peak times im getting capped to 4.5 mbps.

People speaking on ventrilo lag so can't understand, constant change in latency on World of Warcraft, have to relog at least 3/5 times during peak. Playing CSS or BF2 during peak, my ping just randomly decides to spike to 800/1k ms every 10 minutes (so causes me to d/c)

Avoid at all cost, can't wait to change to a different isp

janp · 8 Sep 2009 at 13:21

caz32 said:
Im on land line virgin 8mb, getting 6.5mb, peak times im getting capped to 4.5 mbps.

People speaking on ventrilo lag so can't understand, constant change in latency on World of Warcraft, have to relog at least 3/5 times during peak. Playing CSS or BF2 during peak, my ping just randomly decides to spike to 800/1k ms every 10 minutes (so causes me to d/c)

Avoid at all cost, can't wait to change to a different isp

It sounds as though you are on an ADSL connection as opposed to Virgin fibre cable connection. The fibre network is much less dependant on distance from exchange. Your issues might be attributed to a bad line so even if you moved away from Virgin you could still run into the same problems.

Stuarts · 8 Sep 2009 at 15:19

The 20mb is not as fast in practice as it sounds.

Mine seems a little ponderous at times.

Having just upgraded to the 50mb will be interested to see if that makes any difference.

Torrents are no problem though. In practice downloads are quick, and torrents seem to be the same as anything else.

Jabbs · 8 Sep 2009 at 18:41

I was on 20mb for 18 months and it was a faultless service currently back on 50mb again as i downgraded back to 20 but it felt slow believe it or not even though i always got full speeds, loving 50mb again.