Vista and FireWall Programs!! ;D

NachT · 9 Mar 2007 at 17:42

It's a change from the virus programs!

Any ways, whats everyone using as their fire wall under vista 64bit? Is it evan worth using a firewall? I've never trusted the built in MS FW :eek:

I do download with torrents, so it would be a good idea to use one i guess.

Suggestions?

masslac · 9 Mar 2007 at 17:44

Windows firewall is fine.

dirtybeatfreak · 9 Mar 2007 at 17:58

i been recommended and after reading multiple threads on here that either kaspersky or nod32 are the way forward...i got errors with nod32 but kaspersky seems to be working like a dream

lay-z-boy · 9 Mar 2007 at 18:08

Windows Firewall and/or Hardware firewall (router)

korbk · 9 Mar 2007 at 18:41

Using Kaspersky's firewall on Ultimate x32. It's no Outpost but it's a billion times better than Vista's crappy firewall (well it's crappy because the outbound filtering is a joke). Really, I'm waiting for Agnitum to pull their finger out and release a Vista compatible version.

NachT · 10 Mar 2007 at 11:37

Hi again,

I've tryed out that Kaspersky firewall, seems good...

When changing settings on the comp, like changing screen savers settings. The kaspersky will popup and ask me if I want to allow it, and makes rules for it.. :rolleyes:

Is there a way to switch that off, i mean.. a screen saver needing rules? lol

I was thinking of just going back to Norton FW + AV. Whats peoples views on norton? And hows it much different from kaspersky etc? Thanks =]

$anch3z · 10 Mar 2007 at 13:17

Norton is total carp tbh...NOD32 all the way here and working sweet on vista

FirebarUK · 10 Mar 2007 at 13:27

We're talking Firewall's here.... :confused:

masslac · 10 Mar 2007 at 13:46

masslac said:
Windows firewall is fine.

NachT · 10 Mar 2007 at 19:00

masslac said:
Windows firewall is fine.

You sure? :\

Some days I have over 1000's connections using P2P programs, and I use my bank cards on the same comp...

I didn't know NOD32 was also a firewall, i'll check that out now

Been using kasper for a day now, and it seems to have slow down my system a bit.

buachille · 10 Mar 2007 at 19:40

alangelluk said:
i been recommended and after reading multiple threads on here that either kaspersky or nod32 are the way forward...i got errors with nod32 but kaspersky seems to be working like a dream

i have the feeling that if you run nod32 firewall you will not get a lot of protection

nod32 firewall is kind of.......................

non existant

masslac · 10 Mar 2007 at 20:44

NachT said:
You sure? :\

Yes.

xms · 12 Mar 2007 at 06:25

I'm using pctools firewall: http://www.pctools.com/firewall/
It's free and it does its job quite well

Only problem is it doesn't support 64bit vista yet.

masslac · 12 Mar 2007 at 06:27

xms said:
I'm using pctools firewall: http://www.pctools.com/firewall/
It's free and it does its job quite well
Only problem is it doesn't support 64bit vista yet.

Welcome to the forums.

xms · 12 Mar 2007 at 06:31

Thanks!

roakes · 19 Mar 2007 at 09:49

xms said:
I'm using pctools firewall: http://www.pctools.com/firewall/
It's free and it does its job quite well
Only problem is it doesn't support 64bit vista yet.

Just started using this too, definitely does the job and some nice features that I wished were in Kerio when I used it in XP like being able to create a rule to accept a certain type of connection by simply right clicking on it in the logs.

the-void · 19 Mar 2007 at 10:42

masslac said:
Windows firewall is fine.

Windows Firewall is a joke. You have to manually specify which outbound traffic to block. Everything is allowed out automatically. That means if you download a trojan or a keylogger then windows firewall won't block it unless you tell it to. And its hardly likely a keylogger or trojan is going to let you know its just installed.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,128834-c,vistalonghorn/article.html

Or try it for yourself if you don't beleive me or the link.

or follow the extraordinary BS you have to go through to make it worthwhile..

http://forums.pcworld.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=25889#25889
http://www.agnitum.com/news/securityinsight/issues/january2007

Quote from the above article

"But it’s clear one thing that won’t ever bother most users: the Windows Vista firewall. It doesn’t control outbound activity, and so it is inherently incapable of delivering real-time control over network traffic. The fact that it can only allow or block connections creates a sizeable security risk if the firewall allows outbound connections and a serious interference with productive PC usage if all outbound traffic is blocked."

or get a decent firewall that offers outbound rules...

Fr0dders · 19 Mar 2007 at 11:41

you dont actually need an outbound firewall though

if you download a trojan or zombie program etc.. then the antivirus will pick it up before you install and run it and let it broadcast to the outside world

and outbound firewalls dont allways stop keyloggers either, and again they can usually be picked up by antivirus

the major problem is stopping stuff getting in. Which windows firewall does fine.

beachBOYken · 19 Mar 2007 at 15:10

hi

i find windows fw is fine and also avg free edition is great updates all the time and does not clog up everything like that mcafee one does

the-void · 19 Mar 2007 at 15:16

MrLOL said:
you dont actually need an outbound firewall though

How come everyone applauded when MS provided outbound protection on Vista firewall? (Until they realised that it was rather pointless out of the box).
Why did they go to all the effort of providing that feature if it isn't needed?

I'm guessing you don't have one then and have no idea of how often windows wants to "phone home" or some application requires the internet access. Personally I want to specify what applications have outbound access, but if your happy being wide open.

Virus checkers are not too hot at picking up malware. If they was, then you wouldn't have programs such as ad-aware and spybot...

http://www.agnitum.com/news/securityinsight/issues/may2006