Vista graphical problems - solution yet?

oxygene · 23 Nov 2006 at 10:23

I know many games have trouble running in Vista like for example most recently Defcon. Its because one of the graphics modes havent been sorted properly yet. Opengl? Cant remember. But I was wondering if there is a solution or a patch or something that fixes this? And yes I have tried latest vista graphics drivers.

Wayn0r · 23 Nov 2006 at 10:26

tried running the game in compatability mode?

oxygene · 23 Nov 2006 at 11:14

yup no joy. compatability doesnt sort graphical problems as far as I know. Its more for driver lookup methods and data handling differences. I think.

Vai · 23 Nov 2006 at 11:34

Most of the game problems are down to bad graphics drivers now. I can't say about ATi, but Nvidia's drivers are still pretty shoddy, though I believe you can use XP's drivers and games will run ok, but you will lose the Aero interface.

zytok · 23 Nov 2006 at 12:02

OpenGL is currently not supported by ATi's drivers (not sure about nVidia). Not sure if this is an oversight due to time constraints or that MS wants everything to be directX so OpenGL (along with EAX) is not supported...

oxygene · 25 Nov 2006 at 09:28

I hope they arent waiting till release to get some suport out. that would really suck

NathanE · 25 Nov 2006 at 09:46

I wouldn't expect a solution until launch day or even sometime after. These problems always happen with every major Windows release - it's just a case of waiting unfortunately.

PS: I'm quite amazed by the number of people on here who are clearly non-techies that have MSDN subscriptions :eek:

PinkPig · 25 Nov 2006 at 10:27

oxygene said:
I hope they arent waiting till release to get some suport out. that would really suck

Why, exactly? Anyone using a new release of Windows, even if they think they're doing it legally, months before its consumer release really shouldn't be expecting games to be properly supported yet.

ic1male · 25 Nov 2006 at 10:27

zytok said:
OpenGL is currently not supported by ATi's drivers (not sure about nVidia). Not sure if this is an oversight due to time constraints or that MS wants everything to be directX so OpenGL (along with EAX) is not supported...

Good Lord! That would wipe quite a few games off the compatible list - all Quake engine games to start with.

NathanE · 25 Nov 2006 at 12:04

OpenGL will be fully supported, give it time.

byron_hinson · 25 Nov 2006 at 12:08

Why was the Vista thread deleted for Piracy? We have it on MSDN!!

Yewen · 25 Nov 2006 at 12:10

byron_hinson said:
Why was the Vista thread deleted for Piracy? We have it on MSDN!!

Please email me with proof that you own a legit copy then.

If people are talking about Vista just for gaming then it is highly unlikely they have a MSDN sub, afterall why use Vista for gaming when XP will game considerably better?

NathanE · 25 Nov 2006 at 12:12

Anyone with a MSDN subscription will be a techie and thus won't be posting "why don't my games work" on public forums. MSDN subscribers have private Microsoft forums they can post on.

byron_hinson · 25 Nov 2006 at 14:02

Yewen said:
Please email me with proof that you own a legit copy then.

If people are talking about Vista just for gaming then it is highly unlikely they have a MSDN sub, afterall why use Vista for gaming when XP will game considerably better?

Well I'm a Microsoft MVP, have a windows news site and a MSDN account, I still reply to posts asking questions about gaming in Vista and even in the beta newsgroups people still ask why there is no EAX in vista...just because you are "tech" minded doesn't mean you know all the answers which is why people post questions.

Sent the proof too.

byron_hinson · 25 Nov 2006 at 14:08

NathanE said:
Anyone with a MSDN subscription will be a techie and thus won't be posting "why don't my games work" on public forums. MSDN subscribers have private Microsoft forums they can post on.

I don't disagree with that, but I'm a techie and I talk about games and respond about ones that don't work. The public Vista forums are also open, just send everyone there instead.

Rebelius · 25 Nov 2006 at 14:10

didn't some people who beta tested and reported lots of bugs and gave MS valuable information get given Vista Ultimate for free? I also have a friend who got Vista through uni somehow, he's an informatics student, I really wouldn't call him a techie though!

byron_hinson · 25 Nov 2006 at 14:12

Rebelius said:
didn't some people who beta tested and reported lots of bugs and gave MS valuable information get given Vista Ultimate for free? I also have a friend who got Vista through uni somehow, he's an informatics student, I really wouldn't call him a techie though!

Yep anyone who reported one bug got it free...wouldn't call most of the testers I see in the beta group as techie either.

tonyyeb · 25 Nov 2006 at 17:08

byron_hinson said:
Well I'm a Microsoft MVP, have a windows news site and a MSDN account, I still reply to posts asking questions about gaming in Vista and even in the beta newsgroups people still ask why there is no EAX in vista...just because you are "tech" minded doesn't mean you know all the answers which is why people post questions.

Sent the proof too.

I have a Technet pro subscription through my work and we have a VL agreement so we get new software as it comes out. Im using Vista at home to test - that includes playing with games but mainly drivers.

marc2003 · 25 Nov 2006 at 17:13

when i had vista rc2 installed with my old x800pro @ xt (now sadly departed), all of my games ran just as well as they did on xp. i guess i just got lucky with the drivers.

zytok · 27 Nov 2006 at 08:04

Yewen said:
Please email me with proof that you own a legit copy then.

If people are talking about Vista just for gaming then it is highly unlikely they have a MSDN sub, afterall why use Vista for gaming when XP will game considerably better?

Who says XP games considerably better? From what I've seen of Vista so far, 90% of games run just as well, 5% actually run better and 5% have a few issues to be resolved. Why shouldn't techie people like gaming? Some pretty broad sweeping (and incorrect) statements there chap......