Vista license

If you have an upgrade of your motherboard or anything else that will cause the operating system to think that it is a new computer you have to buy a new copy of Vista.
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That is the case now for OEM Windows XP. Are the Inquirer saying that the retail license for Vista will be similarly restrictive?
 
That is what I believe to be the case.

Microsoft tried to keep secret from consumers and a way of forcing them to upgrade or buy a more expensive version of vista.

How many people like us who do upgrades of mobo's over a number of years will be caught out.

I bet they won't have a warning in large letters on the boxes. They don't want us to know.
 
Little bt little, MS makes the EULA more and more restricitive for the consumer and they get more and more greedy. :mad:

TBH though, I couldn't give a hoot about Vista, and this kind of crap just enforces that feeling.

Microsoft having such a stranglehold on the OS market really sucks for the consumer.
 
I read a link to the original article earlier today and I'm not convinced.
There is no "confirmation from Microsoft" here.
It has apparently been seen on a Blog updated by some Microsoft people, however in the past such Blogs have been changed and also been forced to reveal that what they posted has been untrue.
The link provided at the beginning of this thread is "The Inquirer" so there goes any kind of truth straight out of the window.

I think what will eventually transpire is that the OEM Vista license is staying the same as it is now - that it cannot be transferred.
Alternatively the OEM license is actually having some restrictions lifted and that you will now be able to do a single transfer of it.
The retail license will probably still have the ability to be moved between any number of machines as often as you like so long as it is only ever installed on one machine at a time.

All of the license agreements and ULA I've seen for Vista would indicate this and although we are still in this "Beta Phase" the ULA/License is one of the first things to "go gold" so that IT Managers and the like can start preparing for license purchases etc.

I'm sure no site has gone out of their way to mislead (although our anti-MS friends at the Inquirer are trying their best to upset people again) but I think what these people have seen is the OEM license and not the Retail one.
The idea that the retail license can only be moved once would fly against everything we've been told by MS so far.

If it transpires not to be the case then I think MS are making a mistake - simple as that.
However at the moment, until I see this as an official press release from MS - and I don't mean on a Blog maintained by MS, I mean a public posting of the Retail Vista ULA I'm going to take this with the usual pinch of salt that I take all such "it's official" posts.
 
killjohnnybravo said:
That is what I believe to be the case.
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Why would anyone pay £100+ more for the retail license, over the OEM license, if that was the case though? Just for the cardboard box? It doesn't make any sense and considering the Inquirer is notably anti-Microsoft and has no credibility as a serious news source, like stoofa I will wait for the official word.
 
No problem. Just phone up MS when reactivating after upgrading and tell them that the last motherboard died. Thus you are replacing and not upgrading. This works when it comes to XP so it will be the same for Vista.
 
stoofa said:
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Whilst I share your initial sceptisism, I have been expecting tighter EULA terms in Vista.:(

I have a copy of the EULA from MS and I've started my wade through the legal jargon. I shall give a summary when I'm done.

I've been told that it is still subject to alterations, although I suspect they will be mearly terminology rather then policy.

Hopefully it shouldn't be too restrictive.

Burnsy
 
Here is where the source pdf came from.
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select any version of vista they all bring up the same pdf.

its on page 6-7

15. REASSIGN TO ANOTHER DEVICE.
a. Software Other than Windows Anytime Upgrade. The first user of the software may reassign
the license to another device one time. If you reassign the license, that other device becomes the
“licensed device.”
b. Windows Anytime Upgrade Software. The first user of the software may reassign the license
to another device one time, but only if the license terms of the software you upgraded from allows
reassignment.
16. TRANSFER TO A THIRD PARTY.
a. Software Other Than Windows Anytime Upgrade. The first user of the software may make a
one time transfer of the software, and this agreement, directly to a third party. The first user must
uninstall the software before transferring it separately from the device. The first user may not retain
any copies.
b. Windows Anytime Upgrade Software. You may transfer the software directly to a third party
only with the licensed device. You may not keep any copies of the software or any earlier version.
c. Other Requirements. Before any permitted transfer, the other party must agree that this
agreement applies to the transfer and use of the software. The transfer must include the proof of
license.
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These are some pre-order prices I have seen. Looking at £250+ for a license that lets us upgrade.

Windows Vista Home Basic
For entry level uses who just want the basic features and functions
£154.99 inc VAT



Windows Vista Home Premium
For the home users who want productivity and entertainment at
home and on the go
£184.99 inc VAT



Windows Vista Business
For small and mid sized businesses and organisations with simple
IT needs
£250.00 inc VAT



Windows Vista Ultimate
Combine the top features of a work and home PC for the best
windows experience and exceptional security
£325.00 inc VAT
 
Isnt our financial system wonderfull, more money at all costs and guess who's paying. It still buggs me when i think of the obscene amount of cash that ms already has and the amount of wealth Bill and his cronies have.

Probably wait for a year now, to at least get some new parts for my first copy of oem vista, bye bye dx10.

Why do these greedy rich 'people' always do this.
 
I find this absolutely disgusting if this is the case. If you pay for something it should be yours, this way your just getting something on loan. People like us are allways upgrading there motherboards etc. I cant belive they can get away with this. :mad:
 
manoz said:
Something like this would increase piracy right?
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Without doubt.

Which is why they should be working towards a happy ground, bridging the gap - as opposed to making matters worse.

I do like Microsoft, I have to say - but you can't be over the top and then have the cheek to complain about piracy.
 
The only hope is to complain to the office fair trading its a unfair contract microsoft is using against consumers or the consumer association and hope the EU gets invovled. I believe its a unfair contract and what I have read before from legally sources in the press if the eula used by software companies were challenged in court they would be deemed unfair. The reason they are too restrictive and this license from microsoft is restrictive. Microsoft will try it on to see if they will get away with.
 
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