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vapor matt

vapor matt

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24hrs into a clean install of vista ultimate and iam begining to like it. new XFI drivers are better, plus the ati drivers are reliable!

plus points!

Easy instalation on raid O ICH intel 975X
found all the drivers ect. runs smooth and the aero desktop is cool and funky and ideal for the average home user who has no intrest in computers. but i would imagine it will all be switched off by the power user's anyway, always looking for that few extra points in certain benchmarks.

takes a little while to get round the vista layout and to find things i was used to in XP, but overall its a nice OS so far!

Bad points!

Firtsly to dam expensive and not worth the upgrade over XP pro at todays prices, but like XP they will come down. its a hungry OS for those resources! on idle with just IE7 open and only the AVG ATI XFI software loaded it has 50 procesess running! think i had like 32 running in XP with everything running. and that OS had 12 months use and is sitting happly as my other boot option.


overall i like Vista, i know i will get board of the fancy bits but as a new OS from mr bill its ok so far!
 
Ive had it installed for a while since getting it from my msdn account.
It is a lot more stable than XP, seems quicker too, the searches are v.v.fast, window switching is very neat, and it just feels a more modern system.

I think the UAC control is a real pain for the average home user, and the user profile system will also catch out a lot of home users.
My admin user profile was disabled when i first installed, and when certain programs refused to install because they required the 'real admin' user to be logged on i had to search around and enable it. It wasnt easy to find, the average person wouldnt have a clue where to look.
So much security has been added to the OS to lock down users, but this isnt required for the average home user.
I dont know if all this will be removed from the 'home' version, as ive installed the Ultimate release.

Nvidia drivers are also very limited at the moment, with very very poor performance, gaming is a No No. Hopefully this will change though when Vista gets released to the general public at the end of Jan.
 
I have been trying out the Ultimate version on my mates Laptop. Superb OS. Really polished and easy to use. As said above, drivers are the only issue but they will soon catch up. I for one will probably be getting the premium when i becomes available.
 
I've been trying out as well; on Asrock dual sata, A64 3000 @2.5ghz, 1024mb OCZ PC4200, 7300GT; dual boot with XP Pro.

I get problems:

The media centre DVD decoder malfunctions or is not installed???

When I try to playback a video in media player a helpfull box appears "Your computer is running low on memory. Quit other programs and try again" all I can do is close. When it does this I have 440mb of the 1024mb in use and no other programs open????

So anyone any ideas what I can do??

Thanks

T
 
Ok ive been giveing the OS a good workout today, and i have some issue's with items that fail to start even though they are part of windows.

first off is the windows firewall dosnt always start! you can start it manual, but it should start on boot up. another one is the built in windows defender. again it dosnt start properly and displays an error. this dosnt happen ever restart. i would say 1 in 3 restarts it apears.

last one is the clear type option, turn it off, install a program and it switches itself back on.

so sum bugs are beging to show in this OS. its main security defense, firewall, windows defender ( built in antispyware ) fails to load every time. annoying niggles i know which could be fixed in an update.
 
Overall it's been pretty reliable although I do get rundll errors when I copy large files between hard drives.
Installed my PDA and sync without any additional software, and seems to boot and shutdown a lot faster than XP did.
Happy so far but can't help wondering if now would have been the time to move to *nix for good.
 
vapor matt said:
Ok ive been giveing the OS a good workout today, and i have some issue's with items that fail to start even though they are part of windows.

first off is the windows firewall dosnt always start! you can start it manual, but it should start on boot up. another one is the built in windows defender. again it dosnt start properly and displays an error. this dosnt happen ever restart. i would say 1 in 3 restarts it apears.

last one is the clear type option, turn it off, install a program and it switches itself back on.

so sum bugs are beging to show in this OS. its main security defense, firewall, windows defender ( built in antispyware ) fails to load every time. annoying niggles i know which could be fixed in an update.
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Ive never had any of these problems since ive been using it, windows firewall and defender are always on and working correctly and the clear type option stays off if i want it to.
What version have you installed?. MSDN?
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Nvidia drivers are also very limited at the moment, with very very poor performance, gaming is a No No. Hopefully this will change though when Vista gets released to the general public at the end of Jan.
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Damn that sucks. I just bought a new P.C that has Windows Media Center installed, but I can upgrade for free to Vista Premium.
I think I will wait until nVidia get their act together and release some nice drivers before I install it.

What is the difference between Vista Premium and Vista Ultimate?
 
Zildjian said:
What is the difference between Vista Premium and Vista Ultimate?
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Premium only allows 16GB of ram, Ultimate 128GB+
Premium 1 physical cpu but unlimited cores, Ultimate 2 cpus Unlimited cores

And ultimate contains the following which premium doesn't
BitLocker Full Drive Encryption
Encrypting File System (EFS)
System image backup and recovery
Windows ShadowCopy
Remote Desktop
Join domain
IIS Web Server
Offline files and folder support
Windows Fax and Scan
Support for multiple user interface languages
(36 languages total) available
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications
Virtual PC Express


So a fair bit, main ones being remote desktop, system image backup and IIS. although there are 3rd party software for most of that stuff.
 
not naming names, but why on the US version of a certain site can i get ultimate for $230 (£117) but when i go the the UK version of the same site its £219?

rather peeves me off to see the UK getting hammered on price for the same item
 
hardc0re_tid said:
not naming names, but why on the US version of a certain site can i get ultimate for $230 (£117) but when i go the the UK version of the same site its £219?

rather peeves me off to see the UK getting hammered on price for the same item
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exchange rate for one and a slight price hike.
 
AcidHell2 said:
exchange rate for one and a slight price hike.
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Shame you can't import it at the US price and still have UK keyboard layout. The only thing you would lose is Media centre extender because it will be the wrong region.
 
UAC is moddeled from linux... in linux... you login as a normal user and you have to give the admin password when you need to run a program that requires admin privilages, the rest of the time.. your a normal user with limited privilages.

This is what keeps computers secure.

You guys just dont understand the point of UAC.
 
OzyOly said:
Shame you can't import it at the US price and still have UK keyboard layout. The only thing you would lose is Media centre extender because it will be the wrong region.
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all windows lets you change language and keyboard layout for as i remember.

why not just order from a site that delivers to UK?
 
Ronaldo said:
all windows lets you change language and keyboard layout for as i remember.

why not just order from a site that delivers to UK?
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I'll be certainly looking at this and I need things like RDP etc. so looks like it's gonna be Ultimate version.
 
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