Visual Studio 2005 Educational

PaulStat · 22 Jun 2006 at 10:49

I'm confused why is this so much cheaper? What's to stop someone who's not in unversity buying this product and installing it?

As far as i can tell it comes with all the CD's etc.

PaulStat · 22 Jun 2006 at 11:35

Well I have a genuine copy in my hands which i bought off of ebay, with all the cd's/auth code? So i'm confused :confused:

Instead of paying £200 i've spent £50

PaulStat · 22 Jun 2006 at 11:55

riddlermarc said:
Are you a student? Surely there's something in the T&C's stating you need to be in full-time education to use it?

Nope not a student

PaulStat · 22 Jun 2006 at 12:24

Mickey said:
The difference is the license you're buying.

If you're not a student/using it for educational purposes (not sure if MS count self-learning as educational) then you may aswell have got a pirate copy and saved yourself the £50.

Using an educational copy for professional purposes is as good as having no license at all basically.

tbh it won't be for professional purposes, i may not be an official student, but I shall be using it to educate myself.

PaulStat · 22 Jun 2006 at 13:34

Gman said:
Well then technically you are breaking the law then as you've purchased software under false information.

the fact you got it from ebay is probably why you got it without any sort of checks on your education claims.

You make it sound like i've downloaded it from Kazaa, I have paid for this you know, albeit not the extortianate 200 quid

PaulStat · 22 Jun 2006 at 14:14

robmiller said:
It's still not legit, though. Why didn't you just get the Express edition?

I have a legit copy with certificates etc.

PaulStat · 22 Jun 2006 at 14:30

robmiller said:
Err... having the physical license on paper does not make it a legal contract or remotely legitimate. I'm pretty sure in the educational EULA it states that you must be a member of an educational institution to use the educational edition.

tbh i didn't even know there was an express edition, i've bought the standard edition it has all the microsoft holograms etc.

it's boxed, has all the cd's (inc msdn), manuals. I really don't see what the issue is.

The guy I bought it of sells hundreds of items like this all legit copies. If they weren't he would have been found out by now

PaulStat · 22 Jun 2006 at 14:34

Gman said:
it may be a legit copy but the licence you've bought does not match yourself. Its like me phoning up for car insurance and telling them I've got a 3 wheeler reliant Robbin when I've really got a top of the range BMW. you'll get the insurance but the insurance docs won't match me or what I've got.

nice analogy

although when you crash your robin reliant and ask for thousands of pounds to fix it you'll get found out.

using an educational piece of software when i'm not in education is hardly the crime of the century. I haven't pinched it off the back of a lorry and I haven't downloaded it from some illegal site

I still fail to see the issue :confused:

PaulStat · 22 Jun 2006 at 17:03

robmiller said:
It's exactly the same as pirating it though In both cases you do not have a license to use the software. Do you really think you pay hundreds of pounds for the physical media and some pretty holograms? No, you pay for a legitimate license, which you don't have thus you may as well have pirated it.

yes ok i'm a bad man