Visual Web Developer

[CaptainComedy]

Ok so I know how to hand code asp.net but came across this the other day and in all fairness once you get to grips with the structure of the program Im finding myself tempted to use it instead of hand code as it generates a lot of repetative code for me... although I do wonder if it also generates the **** frontpage did too which made me never look at this program...

what do you guys think about it?

 

[CaptainComedy]

I welcome anyone who can/has correct(ed) me, I'm just going by Microsoft deciding to call compliant code "IE8 Standards Mode" (i.e. try and twist that it is they who invented the standard) and in general their lack of tools and extensions to IE; VS has "view" mode but it usues a different engine to IE so it was/is pointless. (This may have changed, I've not bothered to find out.)

I'm even against proprietry IDE's and libraries (which pretty much equates to just VS/.NET..) as it it just so restrictive compared to the likes of Squeak Smalltalk - which is so much more than an IDE and is actually written in it's own language (except for some C primitives to get the ball rolling.)

Basically, I find MS to be patronising to developers. Bias I may be, but I get frustrated at the restrictive nature of .NET, and it's comparatively primitive nature. Flames in bound, I can tell.

Not at all, if you have your own preference to scripting with certain applications - it would be nice to get a list to check them all out I love to test the latest programs and see where its all going.

got a list?

 

[CaptainComedy]

It's a superb program and absolutely nothing like Frontpage, plus it's completely free! It's much more geared as a tool to develop your own apps, rather than have something that does it for you, so you won't have any ridiculous html spam code all over the place and the intellisense editor for .NET is great.

On a side note, I hear that the Microsoft Expression web dev program is also very good and the new version even has intellisense/support for PHP built in (although this prog isn't free).

Im checking all their 2008 apps out at the moment (c++, c#, web dev, sql server, j# - although not too good with that and smalltalk) sql server was being a pain to install with the frame works and windows installer 4.1 (I think its 4.1) but all working now.