VMWare Question

JonRohan said:
"This product is priced per processor. Please ensure that that the quantity matches the configuration of the system it will be installed on (Ex. For a 2 processor system you will need quantity 2)"

Sub Total $21k.:(
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Be aware that this is PHYSICAL processor, and not logical core.
 
paradigm said:
Be aware that this is PHYSICAL processor, and not logical core.
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Yep, I gathered that. Didn't realize this stuff was so expensive, I've never had to buy it before. :o

The acceleration kits seem reasonable but don't have vMotion or storageVmotion. :(

Compared to Citrix XenServer it is very expensive (yes I know XenSever is an inferior product).
 
Are you going direct for this, or are you using an intermediary who can negotiate deals with VMWare?

We found our supplier quite competitive.
 
We bought ours when we bought the servers, and it was cheaper getting the licenses through HP via our partner, rather than buying them seperately. Just a pain getting the license keys from HP's website :rolleyes:

Also depends on what features you really need. With Enterprise you get among other things, VMotion, but do you really need it, cut's the cost down a bit.

If I remember, we bought the advanced licenses with 3 DL380 G5's with 32GB ram and dual quad core CPU's and a couple of SAS disks and they were about 7k each, including the licenses.
 
For us, half the reason for virtualizing was the redundancy and resource management that vMotion offered. I can wholly understand the reason for wanting an Enterprise license, and I certainly wouldn't hold back.
 
Baz said:
If I remember, we bought the advanced licenses with 3 DL380 G5's with 32GB ram and dual quad core CPU's and a couple of SAS disks and they were about 7k each, including the licenses.
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That sounds about correct, as we bought similar speced machines with ESX for around that.
 
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paradigm said:
For us, half the reason for virtualizing was the redundancy and resource management that vMotion offered. I can wholly understand the reason for wanting an Enterprise license, and I certainly wouldn't hold back.
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Exactly, I'd rather try and have the enterprise approved as later down the line it could bite me.

I've managed to obtain a few distribution places, will have to give them a ring and see what they can do.

I already have two DL350's, so I may bump them up (ram, cpu, NICS) buy another DL350 with the VMWare Enterprise Acceleration Kit. I'm pretty sure the ML350 should be OK, or would a ML370 be better suited?
 
JonRohan said:
That is quite a good price. Not finding a price that cheap yet.

The servers are coming in at around $7k (Canadian Dollars) and VMWare Enterprise Acceleration kit at $17k (CAD) with 3 years production support.
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We only had the first year support, but that will/has to be ongoing, part of the agreement of buying VMWare if I remember.
 
4 x Dell R610 with dual processor and 32gb memory with fibre cards etc and VM enterprise plus acceleration kit for 8 processors with 3yr platinum support, MS Datacentre Server 2008 R2 x64 licence for each host box (allows you to put as many copies of Server 2008 (or downgrade to earlier versions) on each host box as you want, works out better than buying one licence per virtual server) £56k + VAT.
 
kefkef said:
4 x Dell R610 with dual processor and 32gb memory with fibre cards etc and VM enterprise plus acceleration kit for 8 processors with 3yr platinum support, MS Datacentre Server 2008 R2 x64 licence for each host box (allows you to put as many copies of Server 2008 (or downgrade to earlier versions) on each host box as you want, works out better than buying one licence per virtual server) £56k + VAT.
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That may work out for you, I only have 7 servers and certainly don't have a $100k budget. :p
 
Baz said:
We only had the first year support, but that will/has to be ongoing, part of the agreement of buying VMWare if I remember.
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I'm proposing a three year spend, so everything will be under 3 year support including hardware and SAN.

Unless my budget gets blown out of the water. :eek:
 
It's not advertised very well, but Vmware will do 5yr support packages if you wanted to write it over 5yrs instead.

Worth looking at the Datacentre option though.

Standard Server 7 * £500 = £3500
DataCentre * 2 (2 CPU) 2 x £2200 = £4400

You only need to add 4 more servers to break even (any chance of expanding the amount of servers in the next 3 years?), then it's savings after that. Plus it means 'free' windows licencing for a permanant devlopment environment. Though i suppose it depends on the prices you can get the different server editions for?
 
I will take a look at DataCentre. Currently I have 3 x 2003 Ent 64 Retail and thus can P2V them.

There are plans for an e-commerce site and DB server so it could well work out.
 
With v4 the licencing model was changed to per CPU.

So if you have 2 servers with 2 phycisal CPUs in each then you need to buy 4 CPU licence. Once you have the keys, you will need to combine two into one to be able to licence your host.

We use ESXi Enterprise Plus bundle as we found no need to use ESX, our blades have an SD card with the ESXi on it, then every thing else is on our HP Lefthand with qLogic iscsi cards.

v4 of ESX/ESXi is ONLY 64bit and so your 350/370 may not have 64bit Xeons in them

Kimbie
 
I know the ML350 G6 has 64bit CPU as its running Windows 64bit, also IIRC all G6 ML's are 64 bit.

It has dawned on me today that I may need identical servers for VMWare to avoid any funny activation? Will have to check that out with VMWare.
 
You don't necessarily need identical servers, just ones that are supported by the vendor for ESX and VMWare.
 
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