VR Gloves (NOT haptic)

[cavemanoc]

I'm planning to get into DCS in VR, initially to have a play with the Warthog. I managed to pick up the Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog controllers and noticed that the Warthog DLC has glove support. Ideally I would like to play using VR, the Stick/throttle combo, and my hands. I'm not fussed about feedback (and not willing to spend thousands of pounds on the haptic gloves), so is there a simple golve solution that simply allows me to see my hands in VR, and interact with the cockpit with them? I'm using the Rift S at the moment.

 

[DD_Crash]

There is/will be this

Pointctrl alternative...

I have given up waiting for pointctrl... so I have made my own (thanks rafgaj78) at a fraction of the cost... probably no more than £20 for each unit in parts. I no longer need a full pointctrl as the Quest Pro tracks hands. To be fair, I can also emulate mouse clicks with hand gestures and the Q...

forum.dcs.world

 

[Mr_Sukebe]

Options that I’m aware of:
- DCS does support Captoglove for their clickable cockpit aircraft. They’re not cheap and the reviews I’ve read weren’t that positive
- some VR headsets include hand tracking (eg the quest pro), I don’t remember the Rift S having that. I’ve tried the hand tracking and preferred using a mouse

 

[cavemanoc]

I really like that homebrew pointctrl, especially at that price. You weren't kidding about the price on the Captoglove - way beyond the price I'm looking for. I have found a few home build options which might make amusing projects - or I'll wait for the Quest Pro to come down in price and grab one second hand.

 

[cavemanoc]

I've picked up a Quest 3, which has pretty decent hand tracking built into it. Has anyone tried it in DCS? Be nice to be able to interact with the cockpit without having to pick up a controller. That said, the HOTAS setup seem to have everything needed on stick and throttle, so I guess if I can find it all blind I might not need anything else.

 

[DD_Crash]

I would ask here https://forum.dcs.world/forum/302-virtual-reality/ There are some really helpful people there

 

[cavemanoc]

Brilliant - thanks - I knew there'd be a specialist forum out there somewhere

 

[LostCorpse]

if you feeling advenuraus

 

[cavemanoc]

I had stumbled across those, and will probably have a go at some point. The biggest issue (of the long shopping list of issues) is the bulk - they really are an either/or with any other sort of controller. Using the HOTAS, they will just be in the way unfortunately. I've seen a few ideas that all have the same issue (strapping the VR controller to the back of your off hand, so you can grab it when needed was one, but again - you then have a bulky controller swinging around.) I do love thse ghetto gloves though - can definitey see those in my future, and I needed a project for the new printer

 

[LostCorpse]

working on a v5 which will be smaller and less bulky. sort of gave an idea of size near the end for about 20secs around 15:20
but prob wont be seen untill some time next year at a guess. given this is 18months old or so

 

[LostCorpse]

oow i saw this and thouht of you lot

Evolution in Haptic Excellence: Nova to Nova 2 | SenseGlove

The haptics market is fast-paced and continuously evolving. The journey from the SenseGlove Nova to the Nova 2 signifies a significant evolution in haptic gloves. Let’s dissect and compare the…

www.senseglove.com

these are mainly used for XR training / research & simulate tension on the fingers, pretty much the same way we feel when grabbing objects in real-life​

Priced at $6000 but it is honestly pretty advanced technology

Specs:

• Force Feedback: 4x 1 DoF passive magnetic brake force feedback modules, delivering up to 20N of force resistance.
• Haptic Feedback: 2x LRA haptic feedback on thumb and index fingertips, plus two on the active strap in the palm.
• Contact Feedback: 1x Active strap with 1 DoF control pushing against the palm.
• Finger Tracking: 6 DoF finger tracking (2 DoF Thumb, 2 DoF index, 2x 1 DoF middle and ring finger).
• Battery Life: 3450mAh Lithium-Ion Battery, providing around 3 hours of simulation time.
• Communication: 2.4GHz wireless serial communication, 60Hz – 90Hz refresh rate.
• Weight: Approximately 350g (12.3 oz) per glove.

more refined

 

[cavemanoc]

Ouch - It's a shame that we are still in the industrial space pricing wise! Even base level haptic feedback would revolutionise immersion in games that were designed for it - but I guess if that's the cost of admission, no-one is going to build for it.

 

[Mr_Sukebe]

Give it a year and we might see a cheap Chinese knock off at a vaguely sensible price.

 

[LostCorpse]

dont forget you have the diy version for abourr $60
you can see that option further up

 

[cavemanoc]

My 3D printer is currently idle, so I might have to have a play - could be a fun little project.