VR New PC & Vive Advice Needed

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Hi guys,

I am looking to buy a new PC and HTC Vive in the next few weeks, and looking for advice on what to buy. I think I will buy all from OCUK as it seems a good setup.

I have tried to research as much as I can, so I have a decent idea of the requirements, however it is a long time since I have been in PC gaming loop in a way, and so things like overclocking, building the PC myself, etc are kind of stuff I'd like to avoid if possible (for the moment atleast till I find my feet again).

Mainly I will use the PC for racing sims, Iracing and Assetto Corsa, (I play both currently from time to time on my old PC and ****** TV, so I'm used to poor resolution I'd say lol!). But I also want to play Onward, and all the other novel games and ideas that VR has to offer (I've been watching youtube videos for a year now so NEED in badly ha!).

My budget for the whole PC build and Vive is about 1750 to 1950 (if worth paying the extra few pound). I would like to be able to play everything that is available now well, but also not run out of hardware for future stuff and have to upgrade again for atleast a year or hopefully two.

This is a basket I created on OCUK, and I am wondering if it looks good, or what should I change or swap out to better suit me?:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x OcUK Kinetic VR Gaming PC - Intel Core i5 6500, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB = £1,913.65
    • Case:Aerocool QS-240 Micro-ATX Case - Black
    • Processor:Intel Core i5-6600 3.30GHz (Skylake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail
    • Memory:Kingston Fury Black 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C15 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (HX424C15FB2K2/1
    • Graphics Card:OcUK GeForce GTX 1070 "Founders Edition" 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
    • Primary Solid State Drive / Hard Drive:Seagate SSHD 7200RPM 3.5" 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DX001) SSHD Hybrid Drive
    • Secondary Mechanical Hard Drive:Unwanted
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 64-Bit DVD - OEM (MS-KW9-00139)
    • Virtual Reality Headset:HTC Vive VR Headset UK
    • WiFi:Unwanted

Total: £1,928.10
(includes shipping: £14.45)


 
If you're not in a huge hurry, a new line of Intel CPUs is launching very soon. They should be announced/launched at CES 2017, which is January 5th to 8th.

You'll be able to get a faster CPU and better motherboard for the same money.

Also, as well, you should phone overclockers and ask them if they're planning on doing any Vive + GTX 1070 bundles again.

They've done it twice so far, and the last one was very recently. They were basically giving you the Vive + a specific 1070, for the price of a GTX 1060.

And the GTX 1070 is the right choice to be able to run everything fine now, and have some future proofing as well. It can run the majority of current VR games at 1.5X supersampling.
 
If you're not in a huge hurry, a new line of Intel CPUs is launching very soon. They should be announced/launched at CES 2017, which is January 5th to 8th.

You'll be able to get a faster CPU and better motherboard for the same money.

Also, as well, you should phone overclockers and ask them if they're planning on doing any Vive + GTX 1070 bundles again.

They've done it twice so far, and the last one was very recently. They were basically giving you the Vive + a specific 1070, for the price of a GTX 1060.

And the GTX 1070 is the right choice to be able to run everything fine now, and have some future proofing as well. It can run the majority of current VR games at 1.5X supersampling.

Ok thanks. I suppose I'm impatient to be honest, and all that has been holding me back so far is space, but currently waiting on our new house to be built (hopefully finished next month), so then I straight away want to populate the man cave lol! I know I could wait and prices will come down for some stuff, but at the same time there's always something new around the corner, so in Jan I then might think (well maybe I should wait till this next thing comes out in March etc?). If I am loving VR and the setup, and things do move on next year and I have to upgrade the odd bit here and there each year, I wouldn't be too bad about that. It's more so the graphics card is the big money it seems so that I don't want to have to buy each year! Ringing OCUK when I'm about to pull the trigger though is really good advice though, I'll def go with that.

Also am I ok with the 2TB SSHD Seagate hard drive or what is the best advice on that front?
 
It's not just new CPUs in January though, as HTC have said CES will be worth watching for people interested in a new Vive.

I was about to pull the trigger on a Rift, but January is too close and I'd be kicking myself if HTC release something that sets the Vive ahead of the competition...
 
How important is the CPU regards VR though? From reading, not very much

Not that important once you pass a threshold, but if your CPU is too weak it'll drop frames all over the place.

CPU is more important in VR than in 'normal' gaming at least.


It's not just new CPUs in January though, as HTC have said CES will be worth watching for people interested in a new Vive.

I was about to pull the trigger on a Rift, but January is too close and I'd be kicking myself if HTC release something that sets the Vive ahead of the competition...

Yes this is another point. There is very little information at the moment, but it sounds like HTC will be refreshing the Vive, and doing a 1.5 model.

Will likely be very similar, but more comfortable to wear, come with updated single-motor lighthouse sensors, the version 2 controller, and MAYBE be cheaper.

I don't know if they'll announce it at CES though. Maybe since they showed off the Vive 1 at CES 2016.

But even if they show it off in January, there's no guarantee you'll be able to buy it soon.
 
Looking at HardOCP's test using The Brookhaven Experiment, only the Titan X avoids significant amounts of reprojection (under 1%). Even the GTX 1080 gets 8% reprojection.
 
Will likely be very similar, but more comfortable to wear, come with updated single-motor lighthouse sensors, the version 2 controller, and MAYBE be cheaper.
I think new controllers are almost a certainty after what they've shown recently. Would definitely like a more comfortable headset design!

Doubt they can have a single motor in the lighthouses though - would probably require noisy gearing to drive both the x and y rotors, but on the other hand it would be cheaper... for HTC at least ;)
 
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