VRM temperatures of X570 chipset (Gigabyte X570S UD & X570S GAMING X) with 5950X (no OC)...?

[IloveYouSOmuch]

Hello

Im looking to buy a mainboard for my 5950x CPU. I like the Gigabyte X570S and/or X570S GAMING X (they should be the same boards basically). I like them because of cheap price (in my country) and 3 x M.2 slots (all at full speed (!!) - PCIe 4.0 x4 (at least they say so on their website that all three support PCIe 4.0 x4 at the same time )):

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The one thing i dont like about the motherboard is that they supposedly have HIGH VRM temps... BUT (!). Im not sure if this applies ONLY to the overclocked CPUs or even CPUs running normally, Non-overclocked. From some tests/reviews its hard to tell. Im planning to run my 5950x "on default", without any overclocking... Im planning to use air cooler DeepCool AK620. Soon im also planning to buy RTX 4090 (currently i have GTX 1070)... So the RTX 4090 should probably "add some heat" to the case and maybe (?) contribute to the temperature (incrase) of the VRMs of the motherboard...
Im judging the VRMs temps of the Gigabyte X570S UD based on these test/reviews/videos etc.:

After those Tests I'm not sure why you would STILL buy X570 - ASUS B550 VRM Testing

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Is says 87 c R9 3900x 3.8 GHz @ 1.15 v MLCC ... BUT (!), some issues i have regarding applying the results of the tests to me peronally:

1) AFAIK the board in the tests is NOT the same as the one im planning ( i think), its probably the

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But my (planned) is: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570S-UD-rev-10
and they are somewhat different (even in the VRM section)...
2) These test were done with 3900x and NOT 5950x (mine); (although i care about VRM temps so im not sure if the CPU matters)...?
3) additionally i think it had increased voltage (? - @ 1.15)...?;
4) additionally it was cooled by water cooler (meaning no fans near the VRMs as is the case with "standard" air coolers)
5) additionally the case itself had no active fans (as far as i know).

My question is:

What sort of VRMs temps can i expect with the board (Gigabyte X570S UD) if i use it with None-overclocked (!) 5950x, with air cooler DeepCool AK620, with some basic case fans...
(Maybe someone here has this exact some board with similiarly hungry/powerful CPU...?)

What sort of VRMs temps should i expect...? What are "safe VRM temps"...? What if i add some additionaly few small 40mm fans on top of the VRM heatsinks...? That should help right?

Thank you

 

[Yaayuh!]

So long as VRM temperatures are under 100c, all should be well.
Worth noting Der8auer was running Prime 95 on an open test bench. That's not normal usage and shows absolute worst case scenario.

 

[wookiee87]

i had a 5950x and a asus corosshair exterme, that used passive heatsinks for the chipset, running a fairly big oc on my old 5950x at 4.7ghz all core and in games and benchmark tests saw anywhere from low 50's to around 57-58c on the chipset, but old pc never missed a beat and was fully stable, the main thing is to setup decent airflow through your case, as long as some air flows over it thats all it needs, it becomes a problem if no air can flow, temps then would likley spike into the high 70's even 80's, thats my zone i'd be looking to change things add exta fans etc.

 

[Mcnumpty2323]

Believe I bought the aforementioned crosshair viii extreme
From wookie87
It's a great board
I had a 3900x in it then upgraded to 5950x
Can't say I noticed much vrm temperature change
From 3900x to 5950x
Though my overclock is more Conservative than he had
Only 4.5ghz all core
If you're planning on no overclock
Reviews where they're overclocking
And running stuff like prime95
Aren't really the same as what you intend to do
But yeah airflow always helps
Some little fans might work but you may not need
Them anyway

 

[IloveYouSOmuch]

High VRM temps shorten the life span of the VRM (motherboard itself) right...? so even though 85 C for example is still considered OK, it shortens the lifespan, correct...? By how much? I would liek to use this build for at aproximatelly 5-6 years...?

 

[Mcnumpty2323]

There's a formula for calculating expected lifespan
For capacitor etc
It includes temperature values
Unless you're an electronic engineer
Or someone who is very good with that stuff
There's no real way to tell how long the motherboard will last

Even if you know how to calculate it
Some may still fail before that
Some will last longer

In the past I have had a 2600k overclocked
From 3.4ghz to just over 5ghz
In same motherboard for 10 years
Motherboard in those days didn't have the sort of power delivery
Systems they do now
Nowadays it's usually well over specced

How long is the warranty on the motherboard?
If they give you say 3 years warranty
That would show confidence they expect it to last longer

But I think your question is unlikely to have an answer
Unless from an electronic engineer
Who knows the components in question

 

[IloveYouSOmuch]

Also in addition i would like to ask, if i may :

1) I read that the audio codec of the motherboard is not really that good at all (its Realtek 887)... But if im NOT an audiophile ( my headset costs like 10 USD )... Will I really notice a difference (while gaming or listening to music or whatever)...? Is it really a problem?

2)One of the Three 3 M.2 slots of the motherboard is located UNDER the space that will be occupied by the big (multislot) RTX 4090 Cooler . SImply the RTX 4090 (cooler) is so big that it will at least partially (if not fully, i think fully) cover one of the m.2 slots for SSD. I guess this means 2 things - Firstly - i can forget to put an SSD cooler on the SSD in this slot since it wont fit (under the RTX 4090)...? And secondly, theres quite a big chance that the SSD in this slot will thermal throttle when the RTX 4090 will be under heavy load (since the RTX 4090 will radiate too much heat onto the SSD underneath...? If not thermal throttle, the SSD will still run MUCH HOTTER because of this...?

3) In my country there are 2 "versions" of the "Gigabyte X570S UD"... One is simply "Gigabyte X570S UD" and the other one is "Gigabyte X570S UD rev 1.0"...? What does that "rev 1.0 mean"...? I cannot find it anywhere online? The website of Gigabyte also mentions only the "Gigabyte X570S UD rev 1.0" so what is the "Gigabyte X570S UD" (without the "Rev 1.0")...? (i want to buy the one without the rev1.0 because its a bit cheaper and offered by wider and better range of eshopsy in my country)... Whats the difference (if any) between the "base model" and the one with the "rev 1.0"?
Thank you

 

[Mcnumpty2323]

if youre using 10 dollar headphones
then no its not a problem

the m2 under the gpu has a motherboard heatsink
maybe not as good as an after market heatsink but not too bad
will a rtx4090 make it run warmer?
not sure
not had any issues with my m2 under the gpu
but only using a 2080ti so a 250 watt card

i cant see more than 1 revision of that board
some uk websites dont list the revision number
which suggests theres only rev 1.0

 

[Tetras]

Whats the difference (if any) between the "base model" and the one with the "rev 1.0"?

Rev 1.0 is the base model.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

Msi tomahawk boards supposed to be very good on vrm temps. Hardware unboxed has a video on it and im sure techspot site had a roundup of mobos and vrm temp testing for b550 and x570 boards

 

[jigger]

An AMD wraith prism HSF will solve high VRM temps.