[warning contains spoilers] Star Trek : Beyond Question

ShiWarrior · 10 Aug 2019 at 21:38

I have finally watched the last Star Trek Film, im now up to date (except for Discovery)

I am left confused and need help to understand why

Ok so we hear about ambassador Spock
i was like WTF? how can this be, this is in the future surely ?

then we see the photograph of the Original series crew

I thought the last 3 films were star-dated BEFORE William Shatners crew of the enterprise ?

Can somebody explain this please, thank you kindly

ShiWarrior · 10 Aug 2019 at 22:00

Stephanie Peterson said:
Er didnt you watch the first film in the reboot?
Its quite clear this is an alternative universe.

it was a long time ago i watched it lol

Nimoy was in the reboot

ShiWarrior · 10 Aug 2019 at 22:01

Torquar said:
They are set before Kirk Captains the Enterprise, but it's an alternate universe (Kelvin-verse).

OldSpock/Ambassador Spock & Nero travelled back 129 years to the time of the 2009 Star trek film. At that point there were two Spocks, Ambassador Spock (Nimoy) and Commander Spock (Quinto).

thanks for that

ShiWarrior · 10 Aug 2019 at 22:06

Steampunk said:
The three last films were JJ Abrams alternative timeline (ie Kelvin Timeline). In the Prime timeline Shatner's Trek happens, at then end of Spock's career as an Ambassador, he fails to save Romulus from destruction. Both Spock and Nero go back in time and the Kelvin is destroyed. This change in events creates the alternative Kelvin timeline that the JJ films take place in. The events of the first JJ film happens, and Vulcan is destroyed. Spock serves on the Enterprise under Kirk in this alternative timeline, and Spock from the Prime timeline exists alongside, until he dies in the third film.

thanks for that

ShiWarrior · 10 Aug 2019 at 22:16

Stephanie Peterson said:
Basically.

Prime timeline (ie trek/TNG ect) - Hobus star goes boom, this wipes out Romulus which is 500 odd light years away (no idea!!!), Prime spock tries to stop said boom, fails and falls into a fancy black hole with Nero and his borgified ship
Nero pops up hundred of so years earlier and nukes the Kelvin which has thor as its first officer. This buggers up the timeline. Spoke pops into the same timeline a bit later on (Timey wimey crap) and gets captured by a ****** off Nero.
(hence first ST reboot film)

The above causes the Kelvin timeline the reboots are filmed in.
The prime timeline still exists and has Picard wondering WTF he is doing in a vineyard sulking for the last 20years coming to our screens with Amazon in a few months.

Hope that covers it.

thanks

ShiWarrior · 11 Aug 2019 at 12:34

whilst on the subject, whats this i hear about the possibility of Tarantino doing a Star Trek Film ? could this be a good thing ? i guess it would be better than JJ versions..
Although i thought Beyond was the best one out of the 3 JJ versions

ShiWarrior · 11 Aug 2019 at 14:46

Marsman said:
Not sure what's going on with that. I'm not a fan of Tarantino really, so I couldn't really care less whether he makes a Star Trek film or not.

That was probably because Abrams didn't direct Beyond.

I thought it was the least worst of the three.

yes thats true, he only produced it