Water cooling - where to put it all?

I'm going to have a look at the rad when it arrives and make a decision where to put it from there. Although my tape measure says it'll fit internally, I'll reserve judgement until I've actually tried it. I was looking at the shrouds you can order, and was considering using one of these. It would at least improve it's look if I do mount it on the roof, and possibly make it easier to raise the rad from the top of the case. My only concern with this way is that I was going to mount a micro res at the top of my case next to my optical drive, so the res was the highest point of the loop for reasons I'm sure you all know. By mounting the rad as the highest point, I'm concerned there's a danger thats where the air bubbles will go.

I've had a response from Overclockers saying they "currently do not have a date of when these items will be available", so I have no choice. Would've preferred to use Overclockers though, as get most of my stuff from them and have never had any problems. Actually, I did have a problem, but they handled it well and therefore it wasn't a problem, if you know what I mean. Will order the pump when I've made a decision on whether I'm going to order UV tubing and do something with lighting. Will look at the rad and figure out what I'm going to do with that first.

Thanks for your advice pastymuncher, glad you hijacked!:p

AndyOcUK - nice rig. Is that a PCI slot insert you've fed the tubing through? Did you buy that or is it something else modded? Would like to see a clearer pic of the rear of your case so I can see how you mounted your rad, as that location may be another option.
 
pastymuncher said:
All pvc hose is 7/16" and the flow is Res>Pump>CPU>NB>GPU>Rad. To get to and from the rad there are two 6 foot lengths of 15mm copper pipes. The tubing is jined to the copper pipes by some 15mm/10mm brass stepdowns bored out to 13.5mm internally so as not to restrict the flow too much. From the Box holding the pump/psu/res to the pc and back to the copper pipe to the rad is just 7/16" tubing. I know all the purists out there say that it's far too long a loop but it really works superbly for me. Much better than if it was internal to the pc. Because the pc has no CPU/GPU/radiator exhaust fans inside it, the case temp is very stable at around a maximum of 27 Degrees. Unfortunately, the temperature outside is above zero today (first time for a week) and is 5 degrees so i have to put up with a rise in CPU temperature to mid 20's at idle and mid 30's while gaming. What a bummer. :D:D:D
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Very COOL :) (pun intended) do you get any problems with condensation?

The only problem I see is that in the summer the air inside the house with the windows closed maybe cooler than the outside temperature, I suppose you would just have to set the overclocking lower?

Very impressive work!
 
Fitting a PA120.3 in the bottom of an Eclipse is going to loose you a lot of space for yours PCI slots and the like. It will also make it very difficult to connect up usb cables, aswell as power and reset switches.

Mounting in the top it won't fit, even a 120.2 is tight there, how tight varying on your psu size.

If your definitely sticking with the Eclipse and a PA120.3 your going to have to mount externally really.


Myself, I was running an Eclipse with a PA120.2 on the back, and a 120.1 in the front. Overhalling it over xmas and likely putting a 120.2 in the top. Whether it will be my PA in the top or the much slimmer Black Ice I haven't decided yet.
 
DeadMan said:
Very COOL :) (pun intended) do you get any problems with condensation?

The only problem I see is that in the summer the air inside the house with the windows closed maybe cooler than the outside temperature, I suppose you would just have to set the overclocking lower?

Very impressive work!
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No condensation at all. I have been running like this for about a year and a half now and through three upgrades. Initially it was a 939 rig with a A64 4000+ that would'nt clock past 2.8ghz, then my first ever Intel rig with a E4300 that clocked all the way to 3.4ghz, and now my Q6600 which is so far up to 3.8ghz and i have'nt found the limits of this board yet.

As for the window, it is open when i am on the pc whether it's spring, summer, autumn or winter. I have never had to drop the overclock, that's how well it works for me. Obviously at this time of year when it is -6 (as it is now) or below outside i only have the window open a crack but in the summer it is open all the way. You may think i am mad and sit here with my long johns, scarf and gloves on but with it only slightly open it does'nt make that much of a difference. You can't half feel the hot air exhausted from the rad though if you put your hand in the airflow. Just shows it's doing it's job. :D
 
pastymucher that is SO cool.

When I've bought all my camera stuff I am so doing that! :p

As for condensation, he probably won't get any on the CPU/GPU parts because even at idle they are probably above room temp however the return water temp should surely??
 
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Concorde Rules said:
pastymucher that is SO cool.

When I've bought all my camera stuff I am so doing that! :p

As for condensation, he probably won't get any on the CPU/GPU parts because even at idle they are probably above room temp however the return water temp should surely??
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Cheer's. I have never had any condensation at all. Not even on the copper pipes and definately not in the pc. Just been lucky i guess.
 
Pastymuncher thanks for that idea...I've just moved my puter over about 1.5 meters to the other side of my desk so that I could place my rad next to the window.

I've put the curtains down so there's almost a sealed cavity between the room and window where the rad is so that I don't lose heat inside my actual room.

Anyway...before doing this I was hitting about 68c during folding at 3.52ghz on my B3 quad....now the temps are:

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If anyone has had a B3 quad at 1.475v and above about 3.3ghz then you should know that these are quite nice temperatures.
Condensation shouldn't be an issue as the water temp is still above room temperature (21c)...and it always will be as the computer is ALWAYS under load (either gaming or folding)

Keep in mind this is using an EK Wave block, which is hardly designed for a quad.

I have a g0 quad coming monday and am very eager to see what i can do with it :D now.
 
gurusan said:
Pastymuncher thanks for that idea...I've just moved my puter over about 1.5 meters to the other side of my desk so that I could place my rad next to the window.

I've put the curtains down so there's almost a sealed cavity between the room and window where the rad is so that I don't lose heat inside my actual room.

Anyway...before doing this I was hitting about 68c during folding at 3.52ghz on my B3 quad....now the temps are:

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If anyone has had a B3 quad at 1.475v and above about 3.3ghz then you should know that these are quite nice temperatures.
Condensation shouldn't be an issue as the water temp is still above room temperature (21c)...and it always will be as the computer is ALWAYS under load (either gaming or folding)

Keep in mind this is using an EK Wave block, which is hardly designed for a quad.

I have a g0 quad coming monday and am very eager to see what i can do with it :D now.
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Nice one. It really does make a big difference where you put the rad. That's an excellent drop for you and you are down in Oxford. Just think of the drop if you moved up here, -8 degrees outside again now. :D:D
 
Concorde Rules said:
Go on, open the window and give it all!!

Try and get <10C :D
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Lowest i ever had on my old 4300 at 3.4ghz was 8 degrees. On the quad it's 14 degrees idle/ low 20's while gaming. Have'nt a clue what temp the NB is running at but my 8800GT which is overclocked (be a waste if it was'nt) never exceeds 30 degrees and is mostly aound the mid 20's even when gaming. If we get the cold spell we usually have in mid January-mid February i may see the <10 degrees, especially going by the temps so far. We have'nt had daytime temps of -8 in December here for at least 10 years. At the moment it has warmed up to a blistering 2 degrees. If i do ever get down below 10 degrees i will post a piccie. That's if i am able and not sitting here frozen to the chair with one hand frozen over the mouse and the other frozen to the keyboard and also suffering from hypothermia. :D
 
I stuck my rad a bit out of the window and now get awesome temps with my B3 stable @ 3.6ghz...going to run Prime tonight to submit it to the Q6600 oc thread.

My temps don't seem to go below about 47-48c, while my GPU temp goes down to 20c sometimes....I'm pretty sure now the thing that is holding my temps back is the ancient EK Wave block.

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